Flopping Middle pairs out of the blinds, Two hands Party 2/4 6 max

[Dagger78]

Forgive me if these are pretty stupid. These pairs are currently what I'm working on, since these situations come up so often.

How does the fact that some players(as in the button in hand 1) are making some VERY loose calls wiegh your decision to bet or check?

Button is 66/0/2 over 18 hands
Sb is 36/11/1 over 94 hands


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds.

Would you have played this hand differently if the turn had been an offsuit 5 for example?

Hand 2.

This isn't exactly flopping middle pair but it's close.

BB is tagish
Button is 45/15/2 over 58 hands but I haven't seen anything special from him.
MP is new to the table.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
MP calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls, Button folds.

River: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 6 BB

[poker1O1]

both hands are perfect

[James.]

1)pot is so small i lean toward a c/f. the way played is okay as everyone folds to your bet frequently; 1-3, though?

2)nh.

[Nick C]

Hand 1: It's okay. Getting called twice on that flop kind of sucks, as does the turn card.

Hand 2: This looks all right too. You'll usually be best on this river. Don't be shocked if you bet and Villain folds a busted draw (that he had on the flop or picked up on the turn), but MP could have a few different things he might pay off with. The ace on the flop could have discouraged a stab from 9x, 4x, and a hand like 88, and also a worse jack is entirely possible.

[Haupt_234]

I play both hands the exact same.

Haupt_234

[Haupt_234]

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1)pot is so small i lean toward a c/f

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Who are you and what have you done with jameser?

Haupt_234

[James.]

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1)pot is so small i lean toward a c/f

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Who are you and what have you done with jameser?

Haupt_234

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LOL.

[Dagger78]

The small pot is the reason I'm betting. I'm hoping weak draws will just give it up.

The major problem is I'm not going to know where I stand on alot of turn cards. If the turn is a blank and I only button called on the flop would you bet again? Given two calls on the flop I'm C/Fing the turn UI. Is that generally correct?

[Dhani]

First hand just check and fold

if you are beat then it's a weak ace for the 2nd hand. otherwise that's fine

[Haupt_234]

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First hand just check and fold

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This is a leak.

Haupt_234