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Old 06-29-2006, 09:01 AM
dlorc dlorc is offline
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Default Hows my play on 7th?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.50/$1), Ante $0.10, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.20 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (3.20 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (3.60 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (7.60 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

River - (13.60 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___folds
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___bets___raises___calls

Total pot: (21.60 BB)


I called third hoping the Kings and Queens would get into a betting war on 4th/5th but no such luck.

On 6th my read on Seat 8 is that he is a semi-loose player prone to calling too much and not being aggressive enough.
33% VPIP 30% WTSD 75% W%SD - basically he pisses his money away calling too far most of the time.

At this point I know Seat 8 has trip eights, if he had the low he'd have jammed 5th but he didnt, he would have raised 3rd with aces which leaves me with the unpleasant scenario of trip eights/full house. Given my read I think he has trips on 6th.

I contemplated calling his raise on 7th but decided he jams here rather than 6th to make it less obvious. The guy has a brain, but is clearly not a good stud8 player.

Do I checkcall 7th as per against a good player, bet-call 7th against a mediocre player or jam against given my read?

I think the right move here is bet-call, he's going to call with trips but he's only going to raise with the full house.

Is my line here correct or am I a whackjob for thinking this hard about a low stakes hand? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]







Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $10.80 | Rake $0.50

Hero: [Jd Jc Jh 6d Tc Ad Qh] (HI: three of a kind, Jacks)

Seat 8: [6s 8d 8h 4d 3c 8s 4c] (HI: a full house, Eights full of Fours)

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Old 06-29-2006, 09:40 AM
SweetLuckyMe SweetLuckyMe is offline
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Default Re: Hows my play on 7th?

Bet/call 7th. That's a reasonable value bet all day long.

Just keep your fingers crossed that the fishy didn't backdoor a gutshot on the river - that's about how I run lately. LOL [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-29-2006, 11:54 AM
Nick_Foxx Nick_Foxx is offline
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Default Re: Hows my play on 7th?

i don't understand why you capped on the river when your read was that he made trips on sixth street... if he is passive as your stats say (i'm not sure what the reference points are, so i'll just take your word for it), then he wouldn't be 3-betting without being full
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Old 06-29-2006, 12:02 PM
Backstabr Backstabr is offline
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Default Re: Hows my play on 7th?

Raise 3rd. As played, try for a check-raise on 4th if you put your opponents on queens or kings.

Call his river 3-bet. If you are very confident in your read (trips on sixth and passive), you might even flat-call the river.
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:42 PM
cgrohman cgrohman is offline
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Default Re: Hows my play on 7th?

I never really understand the call on 3rd, start betting on 4th with trips. Either slow play it or don't. In High/Low, witht his many players 3rd is a must raise.


7th is a bet/call
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:20 PM
mscags mscags is offline
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Default Re: Hows my play on 7th?

Dear goodness raise third
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Old 07-08-2006, 08:57 PM
Spladle Spladle is offline
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Default Re: Hows my play on 7th?

Complete the bet on third. Don't raise the river. Capping is retarded.

Also it is impossible to check the river when you are last to act and someone has bet in front of you.
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