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Old 06-27-2006, 11:36 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

I didn’t know what to think of this hand. No real reads on these guys.

PartyPoker $55 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t400 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1232)
UTG+1 (t2814)
MP1 (t2330)
CO (t1320)
Button (t8164)
SB (t1710)
Hero (t2430)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t2330 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t2330, SB calls t1710 (All-in), Hero ????
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

i'd call. SB is the only hand that you may have to be worried about. MP1's pushing with garbage, and button is calling with hands that slightly beat garbage.
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

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i'd call. SB is the only hand that you may have to be worried about. MP1's pushing with garbage, and button is calling with hands that slightly beat garbage.

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i agree but with 3 others in the pot ur chances of winning are probably around 40%
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

if it's anywhere near 40% this makes it an instacall.
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

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if it's anywhere near 40% this makes it an instacall.

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agreed. just saying that its still not a for sure win even if he is ahead.
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

You guys aren't helping! If I thought I was 40% I would have instacalled. But, where is this 40% coming from?
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

i just estimated mp1's range to be 40% with buttons range at 20% and sb at 15% and that gives ur 44% chance of winning approx with those ranges. i feel like mp's range is pretty wide and the buttons might be fairily looser than 20% with his stack but i think the sb is pretty close to 15%.
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

id probably call. i agree that SB is the only hand you should worry about being of substantial strength consistently, but the fact is they could all have AT+ here making you a nice fat favorite while they share high cards. i dont know that folding is prudent with your delicate stack size, but i honestly dont recall being in this spot before....
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

Hope they all have AK and JJ.
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: ($55s) QQ, crazy action preflop.

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i just estimated mp1's range to be 40% with buttons range at 20% and sb at 15% and that gives ur 44% chance of winning approx with those ranges. i feel like mp's range is pretty wide and the buttons might be fairily looser than 20% with his stack but i think the sb is pretty close to 15%.

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Ok, I actually played with the numbers a bit and I get around a 40% equity, which surprised me (I thought you were pulling that number out of the air).

However, I don't think your ranges are realistic.

Most villains at $55s are not pushing 40% in this spot. Big stack could be calling pretty wide, but I still think 20% is a little generous. With two callers in front, I just can't see SB calling with 15% regardless of his chip situation.
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