No Limit Fundamentals Seem To Escape Me

[jk3a]

No reads just sat down. The turn and river bets are my concerns. The button raised all in on the river. I called the river raise simply because I was getting almost 6:1 and I really don't dislike the turn bet because I can't assume that card made his hand.

I'm really unsure about the river bet. I didn't fear the 4, and figured I could get called by worse aces, but I really don't know what would be optimal.

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25./$0.50.
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $48.50
CO: $26.25
Button: $34.95
SB: $27.70
BB: $92.70

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3.5</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($11.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, Button calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($25.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $22</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $69.25

[derosnec]

check turn, check call river

or

block turn and river

that's my instinct here

as played, you're getting 5 to 1 to call the river

on a more macro note, this hand shows why A5s is a sucky hand to play out of position

[KingOfSwords]

Yuck, I see this all the time at NL50.
You are probably beat, but I agree that you have to call this given the pot odds.

[Steve]

I'm calling that $11 raise on the river too. You're probably beat, but there's just too much money out there.

[jk3a]

[ QUOTE ]
check turn, check call river

or

block turn and river

that's my instinct here

as played, you're getting 5 to 1 to call the river

on a more macro note, this hand shows why A5s is a sucky hand to play out of position

[/ QUOTE ]


I'm thinking the optimal line would be to check/fold
river to an all-in pot sized bet, but who else checks the turn and why?

[jk3a]

Is it common practice for anyone to check the turn? I'm really confused here. Hence the title.

[Dunga Gin]

I like the turn bet both for value and to protect against the backdoor flush draw.

[scraggs]

i bet the turn as well. as for the river, i generally call if i've been drinking and fold if i haven't.

[crookdimwit]

I'd bet the turn. Same reasons as Dunga... Your hand is vulnerable. Bet to protect it. Tough river...

[jjb108]

At $25 and $50, try out PSB on the flop with a flush draw. You've got Aces up charge them because they will chase or think they are ahead with AJ.

I think the key here is the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the flop lessens the percent times you're shown a flush here and means you have to call here given the odds.

If the flop was A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] x [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] you'd see a flush here a lot and my line is c/c turn and river small bets or block. Read here helps choose the line.