Semi-interesting river bet decision

djoyce003 · #1 06-26-2006, 03:22 PM

Table I was playing at last night. My computer was acting up so I don't have Poker Tracker stats on this guy, and I left shortly after this hand. I'll say that I thought he was a bit too loose with raises, and called raises preflop a bit too much...that's the only read I have on villain. Shortly before this hand I reraised an early position raise from this villain with KK, and he folded a T hi flop to my cbet.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($167.10)
SB ($77.30)
BB ($116.55)
Hero ($96.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($14.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $2.72, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $11.28.

Turn: ($42.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($42.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $10, hero ????

His reraise preflop and then call of my flop raise had me worried he had KK or something. The only real reraising hand i'm head of here is AK. I just picked up the nut-flush draw and figure I will take a free card here.

Then I make two pair on the river, do I just call here or do I raise for value?

los_toros · #2 06-26-2006, 03:24 PM

call

DONTUSETHIS · #3 06-26-2006, 03:26 PM

He could also have an ace and a pair of another card. I would call because he will not put anymore money in the pot if you have him beat.

djoyce003 · #4 06-26-2006, 04:47 PM

are you sure he won't call? I can't really put him on a jack with the reraise unless he specifically has JJ.

I showed a lot of weakness with the turn check, I think I have to raise for value. Do you think he might call a raise with AK if I raise the river?

cbloom · #5 06-26-2006, 05:01 PM

He probably does call a little raise with AK. I think you can raise to $40 or so.

herlig · #6 06-26-2006, 06:37 PM

I would call, if you raise and he push it will be hard to fold given the good pot odds, and hard to call becouse you don't realy know how villain plays, and don't know if he would only push hands that beat you.

terp · #7 06-26-2006, 06:57 PM

i've noticed a trend recently of min3betting preflop in the blinds with AXs. he might have two pair as well here

Thoth · #8 06-26-2006, 07:08 PM

I'd call. Small donk bet + call raise on flop and then (maybe plan to) checkraise the turn is a very scary line. I want to see what he has and make a note on that.
Alternative is a smallish raise to $25 and fold to a push, but I only do that when I have a good read on villain.

djoyce003 · #9 06-27-2006, 09:53 AM

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I'd call. Small donk bet + call raise on flop and then (maybe plan to) checkraise the turn is a very scary line. I want to see what he has and make a note on that.
Alternative is a smallish raise to $25 and fold to a push, but I only do that when I have a good read on villain.

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I agree with you except for this. Generally, when a villain whiffs a turn checkraise, they try to make up for it with an oversized bet on the river. He didn't do that...he threw out what appears to be a weak blocker. This is either exactly what it looks like, a weak blocking bet, or it's a tiny value bet hoping to get paid off with a jack. If it's a blocker he's either got AA/KK/AK I think given that he reraised (yeah it was a minreraise, but it still generally means power, especially from the blinds). If I raise the river it probably freezes any hand without a jack, even if I'm beat I think he just calls a river raise. The question is, will he call a raise with AK/KK here.