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Old 06-26-2006, 07:12 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: I may have got every street wrong.

As far as the flop raise idea goes, it's certainly not my first thought. I'm thinking it mainly has merit if SB is a habitual donker with a draw but checks his made hands.

If we're currently ahead of his draw and we can get HU, we can give ourselves roughly a 50/50 shot at winning. There are a lot of if's in there, though. But raising versus a QJ donk with AT or 66 behind us, well, that would probably be good. The possibilities of being behind an ace-high flush draw even if SB does just have a draw and of the board having hit the PFR are both a bit of a deterrent though, I think.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: I may have got every street wrong.

Flop raise or call for me. I'll raise if I think PFR can fold AK or whatever when it's two cold to him.

Bet the turn.

I want to fold the river but meh, I could see myself playing it the same.
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Old 06-26-2006, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: I may have got every street wrong.

I don't mind preflop. The SB calling gives you nice odds to see the flop with a marginal hand out of position against the original raiser (who has a wide range here I'm guessing at Absolute).

The flop is bad though in my opinion. The CO is left to act so you have no guarantee that you're only calling for 1. The SB could have any pair here I think so I wouldn't mind a peel if the CO wasn't waiting around. I'd probably fold as we aren't protecting anything if we raise and the CO is left to act.

I'd bet the turn I guess given the way you played it. That would announce that you have a king (really, what else would you play that way?) and I think it's for value. Their responses would probably be informative as well.

Not sure about the river given how you played. He donk bets into two players who really haven't showed aggression. It's probably a Q. It's an easier play if you raise the turn.
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Old 06-26-2006, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: I may have got every street wrong.

RDH,

Good point. I just fold, then. Calling still sucks bad.
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: I may have got every street wrong.

Just bet the turn and everything is gravy.
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: I may have got every street wrong.

You think the flop call is gravy? Explain pls
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: I may have got every street wrong.

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[/ QUOTE ] It's an easier play if you raise the turn.

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A good example of raising for information. I have read so many bad ones as of late.
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Old 06-26-2006, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: I may have got every street wrong.

I'd say it's a good example of value betting.
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