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Old 06-23-2006, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs. flush draw--how do you play it?

Flop is perfect. This flop is so draw heavy that he could be raising with a lot of hands.

That turn is an easy call. You have 4 outs to guaranteed implied odds.

Edit: Okay, maybe it's not easy because MP3 could be raising behind you and that would suck.
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Old 06-23-2006, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs. flush draw--how do you play it?

Getting 3-bet ssssuuuucks.
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Old 06-23-2006, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs. flush draw--how do you play it?

Raising the turn is far and away the worst option imo. Calling and folding for 2 more seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Old 06-23-2006, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs. flush draw--how do you play it?

Yeah, you gotta see the river. Gotta.
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Old 06-23-2006, 07:02 PM
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Default He had...

Jack of Diamond and 9 of Diamonds for a 15 out straight and flush draw on the flop.

He seemed to know what he was doing, and although he didn't win much money that night, I think it was a bad run of cards for him. He struck me as a tight player, perhaps too tight. When I look at PT stats, the VPIP is 11%.
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Old 06-23-2006, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs. flush draw--how do you play it?

I call the turm but fold the river
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Old 06-23-2006, 07:20 PM
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Default I\'m beginning to think a call is correct...

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Raising the turn is far and away the worst option imo. Calling and folding for 2 more seems pretty reasonable to me.

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FWIW, he seemed like a tight player/ nut peddler. When I looked, his PT VPIP stats were under 11%, and he didn't raise much. He didn't seem to be a bad player to me, but more of a rock.

Now that I think about it, I'm beginning to agree that the standard play should be to call here against most opponents.

But, against this rock, the implied odds I'm getting for making boats vs. his flush are somewhat counterbalanced by the fact he could also have made a set with tens, eights, or fours (although having pocket fours or eights is much less likely).

If he has a set of tens, I'm drawing dead. But, the range of hands show he is much more likely on a draw of some sort.

Since he was a tight player, I put the possibility of a complete flush much higher than having him check raise on only a straight draw.
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