river decision w/ flopped straight

dw9619 · #1 06-21-2006, 09:43 AM

villan is a monkey. he has built his stack from 2 outer (hits bottom set and beats over pair all in on flop) and a 4 outer (gutshot after calling a pot sized bet). he is raising 50%+ preflop.

villan (450) is UTG. Hero (575) is BB with 9h 7h

villan raises to 6, everyone calls (pot 36), i call in BB. Family pot. Flop is Js Ts 8h. SB checks, i check (looking for CR). villian makes it 20. folds to me. i make it 100 straight. villian quickly calls.pot (236) turn is a 5h giving me a flush redraw. i lead for 150. villian quickly calls. river brings a 2s. not a card i wanted top see. i check, villian pushes. I....

he has been playing wildly his range is huge but i can't see him calling down with at least a pair, straight or flush draw. thoughts?
he also acts very quickly on all streets. his push was instant.

lilsewon · #2 06-21-2006, 09:54 AM

Pot is $800, call $200. This is a very sucky situation, but I really can't let this big of a pot go for 4:1 when he could easily have 2 pair or a set just as well as a flush. Unfortunately he probably has a flush, cuz that's what it looks like. But for a pot that size, no way I'm folding honestly.

Edit: And shoulda made it 200 on turn

dw9619 · #3 06-21-2006, 09:58 AM

yeah, my turn bet was prob a little light

sevenhigh · #4 06-21-2006, 10:02 AM

u r gettting alittle better than 1 to 1 here, its a really tough call in my opinion. more often than not i think i lay it down and live to fight another day. damn river. maybe i am loosing value but the call, call, all-in , i tend to think he has it.

razcat2004 · #5 06-21-2006, 10:05 AM

It's an unfortunate situation but you have to call. This donkey might have the flush since everyone limped in preflop. Just call and hope for the best.

dw9619 · #6 06-21-2006, 10:17 AM

donkey was preflop raiser

LuckyDice · #7 06-21-2006, 11:19 AM

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u r gettting alittle better than 1 to 1 here, its a really tough call in my opinion. more often than not i think i lay it down and live to fight another day. damn river. maybe i am loosing value but the call, call, all-in , i tend to think he has it.

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what???

To the OP, I call and feel good vs this maniac.

joecanada · #8 06-21-2006, 05:30 PM

I pay.

If you were going to lay down to the flush on the river, you definitely should have bet more on the turn and punished him for seeing the last card.

If he's as wild as you say he is and raised pre-flop, I don't see him putting you on the flush given your betting, so he's probably value betting an overpair.

Pay

dw9619 · #9 06-22-2006, 10:10 AM

with so much money in the pot i made the crying call. monkey showed A9 for the nut flush.

i think my biggest mistake was the turn. i think my only chance for taking down the pot was a push on the turn. he was a monkey and he did have tons of outs, but i am not sure he would have chased them with 1 card left.

FGators · #10 06-22-2006, 10:53 AM

I think with the money out there and this guys reputation I might push the turn actually. He sounds insane, and he may have made a really donktastic play and called fishing for outs, but it would put him to a harder decision.