Rivered 2nd nut flush faces aggression from passive player

Romulus141 · #1 06-20-2006, 12:11 PM

MP2 is 63/3/0.80 after 70 hands

Villian, as stats show, is a passive nit. I rarely see him bet his good hands.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, MP2 calls.

River: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero...

I've got the 2nd nut flush, but our friend here has suddenly woken up from his coma, which is a rarity. What would you do?

kerowo · #2 06-20-2006, 12:13 PM

Call. But I hate being the guy who goes to war with the 2nd best hand.

Aaron W. · #3 06-20-2006, 12:16 PM

I'd 3-bet/call. Maybe he has Ax clubs, but he might also have A6/K6/67 and thinks his two pair is good on the river against the backdoor flush. He might even have AK or 77 and slowplayed you.

MrWookie · #4 06-20-2006, 12:45 PM

I 3bet/call, but I also fold preflop.

writser · #5 06-20-2006, 12:52 PM

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jessie · #6 06-20-2006, 02:43 PM

*gnch*

Villain could have hit a lot of good hands on the river, including a straight or a flush - he could also be sitting on a set or 2 pair. At least you holding the 5 takes away a straight flush. It's really hard to give him credit for the nut flush. Reraise and call the cap if it comes.

jessie

Bonesy · #7 06-20-2006, 03:32 PM

I bet/call. There are many hands he could be doing this with that you beat even given your read.

tyler_cracker · #8 06-20-2006, 03:40 PM

Anyone want to take a free card on the turn? I kind of do, but i kind of think it sucks. Hmmm.

The preflop raise is definitely aggressive, but i like it if you've got some reads on the blinds (mostly that they are tight, weak, or extra-sucky).

And yeah, 3bet/call the river. If you lose, that's poker, but you miss too much value by just calling the first time.

Shillx · #9 06-20-2006, 03:45 PM

Reraise. I'll guess QJ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] but he could have a ton of hands that you beat.

GoadToad · #10 06-20-2006, 03:59 PM

*grunch*

since it's very unlikely villain is making any kind of play, and therefore very unlikely he's folding to a raise, it's a straight 50-50 proposition. Do you beat 50% of the hands he would raise with? His extreme passivity make that a little more iffy than usual, but I think you still beat at least 2 out of 3. I've seen similar players raise the straight into this because they assume since you were betting the whole way through the 3-flush is irrelevant. With his stats he might have the wheel. Or hell, even AA.