how to get a girl - 30+ lessons you need to know; funny/serious/LONG

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my friend who is a regular on another forum sent this to me since i lack in the area of being a "player".

Lesson #1-Being Prepared

To get girls, you have to have a lot of factors working together for you. But the single area that you have the most control over is your appearance. Its a known fact that to create chemistry with a girl you have to know how to connect with her emotions. Well taking excellent care of yourself will automatically trigger part of her emotions right off the bat. Think about that for a second. You don't even have to say a word to the girl and she'll already be more willing to talk to you because you've triggered her emotions with your appearance. With that being said, here are the guidelines to follow for your appearance.

1-Workout Consistently-Ok I'm not saying that you have to look like Arnold or some Calvin Klein underwear model, but you should definitely go to the gym 3-5x a week and get yourself in decent shape.

2-Wear nice clothes-By "nice" I don't mean Gucci or Armani, just wear clean clothes that fit your body type and style. I think the most important thing here is to find a look that fits you. If your a skinny piece of [censored], don't go wearing XXL football jerseys and huge baggy pants. That will just magnify that fact, that your incredibly underweight. Get a pair of white shoes and black shoes. You can wear those colors with anything and it will show a girl you have a sense of style.

3-Keep all areas clean-Girls are very perceptive. They notice the smallest details about you. Get your haircut regularly. Keep all your nails clipped and clean. Make sure if you have facial hair its always looking good. If you have a fat goatee, then keep it combed, its hair isn't it. Get a beard trimmer if you have that stubble look and keep it trim. Don't have a uni-brow, go to your mom's bathroom and bust out the tweezer's. Same deal goes for nose hairs. As far as other body hair goes, I trim everywhere else. Most girls, well the hot ones, usually only like hair on your head and little bit above your unit.

4-Skin care-Take good care of your skin. Most guys wash their face with soap and water and that's it. I like to go in the steam room after I work out, and eat a lot of fruit. You will be surprised, its makes a huge difference in the way your skin looks. Besides you don't want to break out the night before you hang out with a hot girl.

If you put these four factors together, you should have a higher self-esteem. This will make you more confident which is half the battle with the girls.















Lesson #2-Creating Attraction

When most guys hear a girl say "I'm so attracted to him," they automatically think the girl is refering to the guy's looks. WRONG!!!!! When a girl says she's attracted to a guy its much more than looks, if at all. All these years, we've be bred to think that the way to a girl's heart is to buy her gifts, call her a lot to show how much you care and put her above anything else. Well in the real world that's the furthest thing from the truth. Now most guys who realize this are quick to say, "To get chicks you have to be @ss-hole." That's not true either. Why would a girl want to be with an @ss-hole?? To create attraction you need to understand these 3 principles:

1-Knowing what to say
2-Knowing how to say it
3-Knowing when to say it

Let me explain each of these in more detail:

1-Knowing what to say-If you know what to say to a girl, then you'll get every girl you've every wanted. So how do you know what to say?? Its actually pretty easy. Say the unexpected. The unexpected is what she subconciously wants to hear, but when you say it, she'll say your mean and hit you. I am naturally pretty funny, according to all my friends and family. So I use this to my advantage to bust on the girl and give her a hard time in a non-threating type of way.

2-Knowing how to say it-Your voice tone is SOOOOO IMPORTANT!! Watch a Brad Pitt movie. Analyze his voice in some of the lines he says. Fight Club is actually a really good example of this because Edward Norton's tone of voice is like a mouse who got kicked in the nutz. So you have a perfect example of how to sound and how you shouldn't sound. Pitt's voice is deep and manly. If you think he just naturally talks that way, then your fooling yourself. He practices at it, I can assure you of this. Girls find this very seductive. The best place to practice your tone of voice is on your cell phone voice mail. Think about this advantages of this. Whenever girls call you and you don't pick up, they can hear your voice which will trigger some of their emotions again.

3-Knowing when to say it- The "when to say it" part is not exactly what it seems like. It basically means to say what your going to say within the context of the subject. Meaning, if you guys are having a conversation about the beach, don't change the subject and talk about school.

The basis of creating attraction is making sure you act like a man. Girls are not attracted to wussies. A wussy is someone who is her "best friend" dying in agony, hoping one day he might suddenly get to fuk her. He became a wussy by calling her a lot, agreeing with everything she says and putting her above himself. Don't be that guy. Always remember, that YOU are the most important person in your world. Take care of yourself FIRST then focus on others. Being a man means having an opinion on things. If a girl says something and asks yo how you feel, don't just agree with it because you think that's what she wants to hear. Tell her your side without starting an arguement. Agreeing with her all the time will also put you in the wussy catergory. Often girls have tests. The will say some outrageous bullshiat to you, just to see if you agree or finally have an opnion and disagree.


Lesson #3 The True Pick up Artist Bill of Rights


1-Thou shall always be talking to a minimum of 3-5 girls. Talking to only 1 shall result in the terminal diease called ONE-ITIS! This diease is always fatal and because it is so severe, it has 2 stages.

Common symptom of stage 1 ONE-ITIS are the following:

-thinking she's so much different from any girl you've met.
-thinking she is the most beautiful girl in the world.
-thinking she is very innocent and moral.


Common symptoms of stage 2 ONE-ITIS are the following:

-calling her 2-3x a day, just to talk.
-staying on the phone for 1-2 hours when she calls you.
-analyzing everything she says and does. Example: "I saw Mary-Beth in the hall today, she looked my way, what did she mean by that???"
-completely ignoring every other girl who shows interest in you.
-asking anyone and everyone for advice and to analyze her actions.
-when asking for advice, you explain EVERY LITTLE FUKIN' DETAIL about what she was wearing and how she smiled at you at 1:00pm so the listener can "understand completely."
-thinking your different from the 1,0000000000000 other "good guy friends" she has.

2-Thou shall not throw away any opportunity to practice your pimping skills.

I don't care if you have to practice on 13 year olds, grandma's, hookers etc. As long as they are female, sharpen your PUA skills to perfection.

3-Thou shall use girls to get other girls.

Always take girls with you when you go out, because once other girls see you they'll become intrigued and want to find out what all the fuss is about.

4-Thou shall not choose one girl over another.

If more than one girl wants you, don't choose. Bang both of them until one leaves. That way you get the best of both world's

5-Finally, Thou shall read all pages on this thread, so Sauce-head does not have to fukin' repeat himself over and over and over.

This is self explantory. If I don't have to repeat the same $hit over and over, we have more time and space to discuss advanced pimpin' techinques.





Lesson # 4-Perception

Everyone judges someone when the initially meet them. Whether they try to or not they judge them. Well perception is key with girls. Let's say Billy-Bob is a virgin who has never even kissed a girl. He studies up and learns the skills of becoming a pick-up artist. He then applies these skills to the next girl he meets. The girl will walk away thinking he's a great catch. She'll think he gets tons of hot girls, he's slept with a lot of hot girls and he can get more hot girls whenever he wants. This is what you want to do. You want to create a impressive image in the girl's mind and make her wonder about you. This is commonly what's referred to as being mysterious. So with that being said, here's the rules of perception.

1-Being busy-Let's say a hot girl you've been trying to bang calls you up today. So when your small talking she'll eventually say, "what did you do today?" Here's how a true pick up artist would respond. "Well I actually just walked in the door as the phone was ringing, I've been busy running all types of errands and stuff." Now in reality the true pick up artist could have sat home all day jacking off 33x. But he's painting a picture in this girl's mind that he's very busy and always has something to do. He also is very vague about what exactly he did. Notice how the true pick up artist doesn't explain where he ran his errands. That creates mystery. Girls are very jealous people. They will think that somewhere along your errand trail you might have been with another girl. What does this do? It makes them work harder for your attention and makes it that much easier for you to score. Think about that? You can sit at home and beat the meat all day and actually have a better chance of getting pu$$y..

2-Phone Skills-A true pick up artist also stays on the phone for a veyr brief amount of time for 2 reasons.

a) The less time on the phone means the more mystery there is about you.
b) It prevents you from fuking up and saying something stupid if you only talk for 3 or 4 minutes.
c) It makes her think your busy.

Along with keep the phone conversation short, you should always end the conversation first. This shows her your not needy and have other things to do. She'll think your talking to other girls.

3-Dates are for AFC's-NO FUKIN' DATES!!! You don't pick up a girl, buy her flowers and pay for her dinner on a first date. You meet her at the beach and walk around or you meet her at a coffee house and talk. She pays for her $hit, you pay for yours. Think of this smokin' hot girl just like your best friend. The only difference is she has a really nice pair of juggs and jell-o @ss.. Just like phone conversations, you keep the dates short. Coffee should last about 40-45 minutes. If you ever wonder how long you a get together with a girl should be, use common sense. If you went out with your buddy to get coffee, you probably wouldn't be there for more than 30-40 minutes. Unless your one of those gothic people who bring their guitar and hang out at the coffee shop for 3 hours. Now once you guys have starting fukin' like chimps on Xstacy then you can get a little bit more flashy with your get togethers.

4-Keep phone calls at a 3:1 ratio-I never ever call girls until they have called me 2 or 3 times. I'm not talking about calling a girl back. If a girl calls you, you should call her back. I'm talking about initiating the phone coversation. If she bitches and says, I always call you etc. then your doing good!!!

I'll get more into specfics about how you should be on phone conversations and get togethers in a future "lesson."..LOL


More Rules of "The Game"

Once you've mastered the art of walking up to a girl and getting her number, there's a whole different chapter on the rules from there on out. Such as when to call, what to say etc. So let me discuss these rules a tad bit.

When to Call-Only call girls Sunday-Wednesday. Why?? Because they are more likely to be available during these times of the week. By Thrusday, girls usually have plans for that night and the rest of the weekend. Now during the summer I realize these rules are a little different because schools out, etc. But during the summer most people work, so stick to only calling Sunday-Wednesday.

What to say-When you call a girl, small talk for a minute or two and then lead into a get together. Don't sit there like her bitch and listen to her problems and then ask her to hang out. Remember your a man, not a wuss, you have better things to do. So after you small talk immediately ask for a get together. You do this my first asking her what her schedule is like for the week. She'll say I work this day until XXXX time and this day I have school. So just pick a time after that, simple, she can't say no or lie to you. If she says she can't then you find out she was not interested right away instead of wasting months and months "hanging out" as friends..LOL

What if she doesn't answer?-Well this is where technology comes to your aid. The first thing you should do before you call a girl is put your caller id block on. This gives you a free phone call!!!! Its a win win situation. If she answers then you can talk, if she doesn't then she'll never know who called her. Which leads me to my next point. DO NOT LEAVE A MESSAGE!! Until you've made the first contact with a girl on the phone don't leave a message. Because your still a stranger to her and even if she's interested, she won't call you back(dumb chick logic).

3's the Charm-3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3!!! Why in the fuk am I typing 3 over and over again?? Because if you only learn one thing from this thread about phone calls it should be this number. That's the MAXIMUM number of times you should call a girl when your trying to make the initial contact with her. Here are the rules for this:

1st phone call-caller id block on, if she doesn't answer DO NOT LEAVE A MESSAGE. Why? Because its a free-phone call, she'll never know who called... -dirty little trick

2nd phone call-caller id block on again, if she doesn't answer DO NOT LEAVE A MESSAGE. Now the timing on the second phone call can be anywhere from a hour or two from the first one or a day later. Because remember she doesn't know who called the first time.

3rd phone call-You put unlock the caller id. If she doesn't answer, leave a message. Your message should say something cocky/funny. For example: (girl's name), its Sauce-head, you can finally put on a clean diaper because your master has called you. Now I know some of you are saying, "how cheesy" or "that won't make her call you back." Well if you don't sell it right then it won't. That's why I mentioned your voice tone earlier. Trust me, you say this right and sell it to her, she'll call you back within a hour or two.

However, it should NEVER get to the point where you have to call her 2 or 3 times, because if you used your PUA skills and laid down the cocky/funny, she will answer her phone all day because she's been waiting for your call. Which leads me to my next point.

Jumping off the Mountain when your on Top!!-WTF does that mean? Remember when I said to always end EVERYTHING first? Well make sure you end it when its at its peak!!! If your on the phone with a girl and your making her laugh and giggle, she's obviously enjoying the conversation. Well end it there!!!! Because when you guys get off the phone, she'll be thinking about you the rest of the day. Same goes for get togethers, make them want more. This is actually the rule I use when I'm hooking up too. Just think of it this way. Take 2 steps back and she'll pull you 1,000 steps forward




Lesson # 5-Lines

I know girls tell you "lines" don't work. Well that's because they are not the right ones.. The key to understanding lines is to say them as if they are not a line. Does that make sense?? You can make these lines effective by hiding them in the middle of a conversation. But here are common "lines" to use.

Openers:

-"Hi" and smile.
-"I noticed you when I walked in and wanted to talk to you."
-"Nice shoes" let's fuk.. just kidding

Closers:
- You:"What's your schedule like for the week?"
Her: Well I'm have work until XXXX time and school on this day."
You: You should join me for XXXX on this day.
-Its important that you say this line just like that. Tell her that your going somewhere and she should JOIN you. This implies that you already had plans to go regardless of whether she goes or not. This works much better than, "will you go out with me on Tuesday??" That's the wussy way, your asking for her persmission.

Number Closer:

You know (girl's name) you seem like a lot of fun to be around, we should get together some time?"

-This works ESPECIALLY WELL on 9's and 10's because they are so use to getting the usual bull$hit compliments about how "pretty they are." The powerful thing about this closer is, you are not asking for her number. Your telling her she's fun to be around. She'll be so excited after you tell her this that her next line will be "let me give you my number." I bet you $10000000 if you do everything preceeding to this correctly that when you say this line, her response will be to offer her number.

-Also by her offering YOU her number she'll emotionally think she likes you. Don't believe me? Just think about how a girl interprets you walking up to her and saying "Can I have your number??" She knows she has you by the ballz and its not exciting to chase a pushover. Food for thought.


These are the usual closers with varations depending upon what we were talking about before and the social setting.



aproaching girls

this may be slightly different to how it works in america,or even girls in a different part of england,but heres how it works wit the girls up here and id expect it to apply everwhere.

first off if you are with a group of guys and you see a group of girls hanging out,dont stare drooling,dont shout stupid [censored] at them that makes you look like a dipshit,find something to start a conversation,look around,could be anything,i like to use a joke.
dont go up and go ''errr umm,hi how you erm doin?'' believe it or not many,many ***gots are like this when talking to girls,they dont bite you know!

once you have started talking you can ask there names and [censored],and ask a bit about themselves,this is where it gets easy,girls like to rabit on about bullshit that you dont care about,and you dont have to do much of the talking cos it will be hard to get them too shut the **** up,dont praise them,thats for ***gots,a nice compliment here and there wont hurt,but sucking up and telling them how pretty they are is for loosers and wont get you nowhere apart from looking desparate.

take it from there,you can swap phone nos and see each other later,go on to hang out somewhere,if they are interested go for it!if not **** them,find some more bitches.if you cant take it from there then there is no hope

i find [censored] like this hard to put into words but it is very basic stuff,genaraly,just lay the foundation and present yourselves as cool guys who they want to hang out with,dont try and be their friends,always keep it so they look at you as a potential sexual partner,maybe throw in the odd sexual joke here and there and [censored].



Practice Makes Perfect-

To get good with girls, you have to prioritize it. Just like lifting, you gotta stay consistent with your meals and training to see results. One of the best ways to get good with girls is to practice your communication and non-verbal communication skills. Now just like in lifting, you didn't go to the gym on your 1st day and squat 3 plates. You started at a much lower weight and built yourself up to 3 plates. Same $hit goes for girls. I know a lot of you are won't admit it, but your very intimidated by really attractive girls. You get all nervous and have no clue what to say . So start off on that really ugly chick in your science class. Or that nerdy girl in math. Of course you would never want to hook up with these girls, but use them as bait to practice for the big fish... Here's what your goals should be:

1-Approach 5 random girls everyday for a week that are between 1-5 on looks. Start a conversation with them about ANYTHING!! Notice how your not intimadated by them AT ALL?? Talking to these girls and being confident is easy. Why? Because you know your better than them. That should be the mentality you have with EVERY GIRL!! Anyway, your focus isn't even to get their numbers or fuk them, its to become comfortable in front of girls in general.

2-For the next 2 weeks approach 5 more girls everyday that are between a 6-7 on looks. Do the same thing, just get comfortable talking to them.

After this 3 week period, your conversation skills(eye contact, voice tone, the way you walk, Alpha Male skills) should have improved dramatically. So now your ready to step up to the majors and talk to the really hot girl with the big fake tits, or the hot blonde who is a Britney Spears look-alike. Now to keep yourself from getting nervous in front of the really hot girls, just keep this in mind: Talk about ANYTHING EXCEPT THEIR LOOKS!!! They know how hot they are and when they hear that 20x a day, they almost take it as an insult and automatically think you just want to fuk them.(Of course you do. ) Even worse they label you as a "nice-guy wussy." Did you know that girls decide within 5 minutes of meeting you, whether or not they'd have sex with you? So just think, if you can be Alpha-confident PUA for 10 minutes, you've got it made.. Girls that are really attractive want to be appreciated for anything except their looks. Keep that in mind and you'll do well. And if you fear rejection or a girl laughing at you, you shouldn't. 99% of the time a girl will be friendly, even if she 's not interested in you. So go get some hours in the batting cage and practice for your big at bat.




THE SCALE...

Ok in my last post I mentioned "THE SCALE." Now I know there are a ton of different varations of this, but here's the most accurate one I've heard of.

The scale is 1-10, here are the catergories.

Face 0-2 pts
Tits 0-2 pts
@ss 0-2 pts
Legs 0-2 pts
Personality 0-2 pts

So let's say a girl is "cute." That deserves a 1.5. Let's say she has "nice" tits. That deserves a 1. Let's say she has a "ok" @ss. That's a 0.5 as well. Let's say she has "good" legs. That's a 1.5 And a really great personality. That's a 2. So this girl would be a 6.5 on the scale.


So now that you know how the scale works, let's talk about how exactly you talk to a girl who's a 6 and how that differs from a girl that's a 8. Here's the general rules:

1-5: These girls are average and below average looking. They know they're not the cream of the crop, so don't bust their balls too much and throw in a compliment or 2. DON'T OVER-DO THE COMPLIMENTS, 2 MAX!!!! These girls are not confident, so if you boost their ego slightly, they'll be more receptive to talking to you.

6-7: These are the girls who are labeled as "cute." They know they're not SUPER-HOT, but they definitely are confident and know they're better than average. With these girls, 1 compliment will do. Your compliments need to flow with the conversation, don't just tell her she has a great personality, when she's talking about sedimentary rock formations.

8-10: These girls have a bubble around them. The only guys who get to be inside their bubble is the guys who show that their not intimidated AT ALL!! These girls get NO COMPLIMENTS!!! In fact you should give them Negative Hits. If you don't know what that is, read the first page of this thread. Like I said above, mention anything but their looks. Tease them about the little things, tell them they write sloppy or ask them if she cried because a strand of hair is out of place etc. Do this in a playful way, so she knows your teasing but your REALLY NOT.. Do not apologize or kiss-@ss to these girls AT ALL!! Let's say hot girl X gives you her number. She tells you to call her at 8:00pm. You get busy and end up calling her at 8:35 pm. When you call, talk to her like everythings chill. She will then ask you why you didn't call earlier. Just tell her you were busy doing some things. Be vague, don't say, "I went to Mcdonalds and then I shaved my @ss." Just say you were busy. Is this starting to make sense? Ok, if you've got questions, I've got answers, so let me know what you think.





Lesson # 6 -Dating Show Education

Alright, I'll be the first one to admit it, when I have free time I'm watching all those dating shows. You know Blind date, Fifth wheel etc. In the beginning I use to just watch them for hot chicks. However now, I dissect each date and figure out if the guy is a total AFC or if he's a Alpha male. Once you mastered the concept of how the Alpha male is suppose to act and all the techniques behind it, you'll realize that shows like these are a invaluable lesson to getting you laid. They teach you EXACTLY how to act and how NOT to act. For example, I was watching Blind date a week ago. The girl was SMOKIN'!! She was in excellent shape, had a nice deep tan, with a tremendous pair of fake tits. She was a 8 on my scale. The guy was a normal looking business guy. They met eachother in a courtyard and they sit down and have a glass of wine to start off with. Immediately the guy is blatantly staring at her tits and just salivating like a dog. He then initiates the 1st of many compliments to her. He tells her how beautiful she is. She slightly rolls her eyes and says "thanks." The way she did this completley proved that really hot girls take compliments on the obvious like an insult. If you compliment these girls they want to hear something different, something unique that sets you apart. But they NEVER want to hear you compliment them within 20 minutes of your get-together. Anyway, they are driving in the car and the guy is just at a loss for words. He then asks her if she works out. She says "yes." And he says, yeah I was staring at your body and noticed you were in excellent shape. She once again roles her eyes and says "thanks." This AFC was so excited about the prospect of hooking up with the fake titted hottie that he didn't know what to do or say. Keep in mind the entire time he was talking he had a huge grin on his face. Then they go to dinner and he says, "umm err, I have to ask you something?" She says "what." He says, "are your breasts real??" She unhappily says "NO!" They then went to a bar. They're chillin at the bar and he's again telling her what beautiful HAIR SHE HAS!! WTF is wrong with this dood!! Is he a fukin' [censored], who gives a $hit about her hair. The dude had a couple glasses of wine at dinner and they had to get a taxi ride home. At this point he realized he had no chance so he let his di-ck do the talking. In the taxi he asked her if she wants to spend the night or come in for a few minutes. This was the topping on the KING AFC CAKE!! The lady politely declined. I think the fact that she was on TV made her act a little nicer to him than she would have. When they finally get to his door, he says alright well, "give me a hug." She taps him on the shoulder and says "Good night." He then asks her if she wants to spend the night or come in AGAIN!!!

Ok, has this taught you guys anything. This guy had a GOLDEN opportunity to bang a smokin' smokin' hot chick. All he had to do was play it cool, have a good conversation and he would have been in. Instead he drooled and complimented her, and complimented her and complimented her. He gave her the impression that he hasn't been laid in a long time and it was probably true. It was so pathetic, the guy was a complete tool. Start making it a habit to watch these shows when you can. Break down the entire date from start to finish. Look for signs of interest when the daters first meet eachother. Such as body language, conversation and voice tone. These shows basically spoon feed you the way to get laid. They have the confessional moments and post date wrap up where the girl tells you what she was REALLY thinking. My point is you should utilize all the tools that help you perfect your craft. Put it this way, if you had the perfect body you would still work out right? Of course you would. Because you don't want to lose what you have and you want to gain more!! Bingo. Once you have left your AFC days behind you and become a good PUA, you want to get better. You want to become a master. So you keep on practicing. Keep that in mind. And WTF does it take to get this thread to be A STICKY????




Lesson # 7-A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing!!!

Ok if you guys really look into the Alpha male attitude, its all about walking around with a exceptionally high level of confidence. All the PUA around have told you that your looks are not THAT important to your success with the opposite sex. So those of you who have learned how to play the game have embraced that and had good results with hot chicks. Well what about dealing with girls who act this way??? Now I'm not talking about girls who are 8's, 9's or 10's. These girls are exceptionally hot in our books and they know it. They've built up a tough skin to wussies and chumps who act like their bitch. What I'm talking about are girls who are 5's, 6's and 7's who ACT like they're a 8,9 or 10. Now a lot of guys will make the mistake of using the scale on a girl and they planning to proceed with that mentality. For example lets say your at a party. You see a girl and you do the scale on her. She comes out to a 6.5 So you think, "hey she's a 6.5, she'll probably like a few compliments and a decent guy attitude. If I'm cocky she'll HATE IT!!" This would be a key mistake!! Because until you have a conversation with a girl you don't know what her perception of herself is. This is why I believe its VERY IMPORTANT to do the initial approach and then let the girl talk for a little bit. Feel her out(not literally ) and see what her angle is. What your looking for is her bitch shield, her confidence and her receptiveness towards your advance. If you learn this it shoud help a lot of you hit homeruns when you otherwise might have struck-out.

So you might be asking, "how in the world would a girl who's about a 5, act like she's a 9??" Well, the answer is, through learning the game. She probably got tired of getting guy's she wasn't into or no guys at all. So she figured just like all the past-AFC's on this board did, that she needs to adjust her mindset and attitude towards the opposite sex.


Also I really want to stress how important it is to practice everytime you can. Pimp it on the fat chick you saw at the mall. Who cares!! Its not like your actually going to hook up with her, your just building your confidence one step at a time.





Every girl is different; some do things others wouldn't do to show they're interested. But in general, body language is a good way to tell.

If when you guys talk, she's genuinely interested. You guys hold eye contact for longer than you would with other people. If her head is slightly tilted rather than straight up. If you're sitting next to eachother, if her leg is crossed towards you (it may be crossed away but that's not always a bad sign). The important thing with body language is to notice changes in body language. For example, some girls naturally cross their arms because it's a comfortable position. You can't interpret her having her arms crossed as a sign that she isn't open to you. However, if you two are talking and something happens in the conversation that makes her cross her arms, it's usually a good sign that what you said bothered her.

If you say something funny/cocky and the girl hits you gently or pushes you as she laughs, that's a big hint. If you're leaving she'll ask you "where are you going" suggesting an invite. If she laughs a lot. If you're standing there and she comes up close into your personal space.

I remember one girl earlier this year that wasn't too interested in me (cause I was being AFC. I started to un-knowingly pay less attention to her). Anyways, I brought her with me to a computer store to pick up a present for someone and noticed her really coming into my personal space. She'd be really close all the time. When I'd stop to look at something, she'd come in close and put her head on my shoulder or chest and try to look on with me. This was a huge hint. She was totally interested by this time, and this was the first of many hints for me to pick up on it.

There are so many ways to tell; these are just a few ways. But honestly, if you just watch her, it's really clear when a girl is interested. Girls usually expect guys to make the first move, so when they're interested, they'll let you know. You just have to be receptive enough to pick up on it. Some girls are more subtle than others.

watching a movie may not be the most ideal way to get kino started. some may disagree, but you can't really watch her and the movie. if you're in a movie you may see if she is leaning your way, constantly watching you, if a sex scene or romantic scene comes up you watch her reaction to you and her. for the movie i would just grab her hand like an alpha male would, she will either like it or not. let you hold it or not. don't be a wuss and half ass grab it. but you need to time it and romantic scenes in a movie may help or scary scenes.

another thing don't just grab her with no mental connection, get some rapport going. you mentioned back rub, it depends how you set it up. in a movie i would go for the hand grab, a back rub if you had no other kino going escallates it too fast. start small like touching her arm in conversation, then a hold her hand, then a back rub may fit. but no touching straight to a back rub and she will definately get pissed.

i feel that you need to atleast touch your mark once, but no more than 3 times in a date or pick up. more is too touchy and she may think you're a creep. less and she may think you're a wuss and not get sexually attached. you could be telling her a story and touch her arm, or lead her into a door and touch her arm. things like this work just make it natural. also be aware she may not want you to touch specific places if she is sensitive there(like feel self concious) so an arm or hand touch may be less intrusive initially. later you can get it going more if she touches you back. reciprocates.
You have to use the old yawn routine , do a really loud yawn then move in for the kill , Only joking dude !, Again this is a body language situation, her body language should signal whether she wants you to do this ! In my opinion its better to touch her, then not have touched at all ! Once you have touched her notice her reactions to then halt or continue doing it ! Bodylanguage is the key to knowing that you are making progress or to realise that you are not making progress. !!

Here is some Body language tips from fast seduction 101

Her lips:

Big smiles with upper and lower teeth showing with a relaxed face.
Biting of the lips or showing of the tongue, licking her lips or touching of her front teeth.
She wets her lips, some women use only a single-lip lick, wetting the upper or lower lip, while others run the tongue around the entire lip area.
She puts her fingernail between her teeth.
She protrudes her lips and thrust her breasts forward.
Her eyes:

She gazes in your eyes with deep interest and her pupils are dilated.
She raises both eyebrows exaggeratedly for a couple of seconds, this is often combined with a smile and some eye contact.
She winks at you while talking to you or winks at you from a distance.
While talking to you, she blinks more than usual, fluttering her eyelashes.
Eyebrows raised and then lowered, then a smile indicates interest in you.
Her hair:

She pushes her fingers through her hair. This can be one hand movement or more of a stroking motion.
She twirls her hair around her fingers while she is looking at you.
She is throwing her hair back off her shoulders.
Her clothing:

If she is wearing clothes that show her nipples underneath and you notice they are getting perky and erect.
The hem goes up to expose a little more leg.
She is fixing, patting or smoothing her outfit to make herself look better.
While she is seated:

She moves in time to the music, with her eyes on you.
She starts sitting straight up and her muscles appear to be firm.
She is sitting with her legs open.
She sits with her legs crossed in a manner to reveal her thigh.
Her legs are rubbing against each other.
Her legs are rubbing against the leg of the table.
Her crossed leg is pointed towards you or if that same leg is rocking back and forth towards you.
Her hands:

She exposes the palms of her hand facing you.
While talking to you, she rests an elbow in the palm of one hand, while holding out her other hand, palm up.
She rubs her wrists up and down.
She sits with one hand touching one of her breasts.
She rubs her chin or touches her cheek. This indicates that she's thinking about you and her relating in some way
She is fondling keys, sliding hands up and down a glass, playing with toys or other things on the table.
She plays with her jewellery, especially with stroking and pulling motions.
She touches your arm, shoulder, thigh, or hand while talking to you (in case you already haven't started kino yourself, dumbass .
She is pretending to look at her watch as you pass her.
Her voice

She raises or lowers the volume of her voice to match yours.
She speeds up or slows down her speaking to match yours.
She laughs in unison with you.
In a crowd she speaks only to you and focuses all of her undivided attention on you.
Micellaneous:

She mirrors your body language and body positions.
Her skin tone becomes red while being around you.
She blows smoke straight out from between her lips and toward you.
She leans over and speaks into her friend's ear, just like in junior high school.
She is standing with her head cocked slightly at an angle, one foot behind the other, hips slightly thrust forward.
At a party - every once in a while she seems to appear out of nowhere in your vicinity and if you move to another spot, soon she appears out of nowhere again, you catch her glancing in your general direction (actually, glancing at YOU dummy! , she bumps into you… accidentally, touches you… accidentally etc

Another big thing I've noticed people do when they're starting is they don't listen to the girl. They're so wound up with what they're going to say next that they don't listen. Conversation should always flow smoothly. You can change the subject 6 times and she shouldn't notice because you're relating it to something she just said. But if you ask 6 different questions that have nothing to do with what she just said, it sounds like you're asking her a ton of questions and she might get offended or feel uncomfortable.

Listen to the girl and feed off of that. Good practice is to just go up and talk to people (as someone mentioned a few posts up) and just have regular conversation. Practice listening to what they say and changing the subject smoothly based on what they say. Make it your goal to control the conversation. You should be calling all the shots (girls like this, especially if you can pull it off subtly). Avoid any awkward silences and make sure the first question you ask is open-ended (meaning a question that requires more than a yes or no answer). If they say they like something, ask them why or how it makes them feel. Then, relate to them using "me too" phrases. Let them do most of the talking, and don't give away everything there is to know about you. Keep a mystery to yourself so the girl is always wanting more.




Lesson: How to tailor to different girls

Every girl is different and needs to be handled differently, but how do you know what you should do differently?

What if every girl you met would tell you exactly how to seduce her? If she would tell you all the ways to turn her on; what qualities the guys she is attracted to have, or what not to try on her. Wouldn't that be great?

Well, girls will tell you step-by-step how to seduce them and what you have to do. It's not very hard to get out of a girl; they love talking about this. So the question is, how do you get her to tell you all this?

It all falls on your conversational skills. If you know how to talk to people, you're going to pick this up easy. If you still respond to people with "ummm....cool" or with awkward silences, you got a ways to go.

Men and women are totally different when it comes to conversation. Women want to FEEL things. They want to talk about how they FEEL and why they feel that way. Men want facts. They could care less about feelings. I'm sorry to break it to you, but if you want to create any type of attraction to this girl, unless she's a complete bimbo, you're going to have to have conversations that lead to feelings. When she gives you facts, take that a step further and get her to turn that fact into feelings. This will make more sense later. The good news is that she'll be doing most of the talking. All you do is jump in here and there to guide the conversation and get valuable information out of her.

So what kinds of questions do you want to ask a girl? Well, there are plenty of question you could ask; here are a few:

What qualities do you look for in a guy?
This is a great one, but you're going to have to make sure you get quality answers. Keep in mind you want feelings also. So if she says she wants a confident/decisive man, you remember those two words then ask her how having a confident man makes her feel or what it does for her as opposed to being with a guy who can't make decisions for himself. She may say something like, "Guys who are confident are a big turn-on" (something should click here: TURN ON. Make sure you're confident if you want a chance with this chick). Or she may say I feel really [whatever] when a guy is confident.

What's it like when you BECOME HOPELESSLY ATTRACTED
This is a Ross Jeffries line, the caps are obviously an embedded command commanding her subconciously to become hopelessly attracted. I haven't tested embeded commands much (maybe saucehead can throw in some results if he's ever tried it), but either way, it's a good question to ask. It does two things. A) In order for her to answer this question, she has to remember a time when she was hopelessly attracted. This will bring back feelings and put her in that state of attraction; she will associate attraction with you. B) She will tell you what it's like when she is attracted, or what the guy did. Make sure you listen to what she says; she's giving you step-by-step instructions.

You can ask her about good or bad experiences with dating. How they made her feel. If you're at a place where people are walking by, you can point out random guys and say "Just by looking at this guy, would you ever consider dating him. Why or why not?"..."Do you think it would last?". Besides being entertaining and different from what other guys would ask her (girls eat this $hit up), she's going to tell you all about first impressions. This will help you in general, but you'll also know what kinds of guys she goes for; you can notice similarities in styles/clothing/hair, she'll tell you turn-ons and turn-offs when it comes to clothing (you should be a good dresser already, but for those of you who need some work, this is a good opportunity to get girls advice), and how she judges people without even talking to them.

Anyways, you guys get the picture. Ask her questions that will get her talking for a while. A girl can talk for hours about this stuff; you will get TONS of valuable tools to use on her, and the best thing is, she won't even know that she's giving you an Operation Manual to herself.

And here's a big piece of advice most guys don't realize when they're trying to seduce a woman: You can seduce a woman just by talking to her and stimulating her mind. In fact, you can get her horny as fvck (especially the more intelligent ones). But remember, when it's comes to turning a woman on, women are like volume knobs and men are like on/off switches. All you have to do to turn on a guy is....well....guys are usually pretty horny all the time. A girl needs to be stimulated. If you can talk to a girl and slowly turn the knob of arousal up, you're going to close a lot of deals.

But most importantly, LISTEN TO WHAT SHE IS SAYING. Remember $hit. It's going to be what determines your success or failure.



Series: Qualities of the Alpha Male
Lesson 1: Possess the ability to Walk away

Intro:
I'm hoping to do a series on some qualities alpha males have so people can start acquiring some of these qualities and attract women. The questions would drop significantly on this thread if people had these qualities. I hope saucehead will jump in on this series and post a few lessons. These qualities aren't necesarily in any particular order.

So this post is about being able to walk away from a girl. One of the biggest AFC mistakes is that the linger around too long. They get an opportunity to hang out with a girl (AFC's get opportunity's, alpha males GIVE opportunities), and they think that the longer they stick around, the better their chances will be. Hanging around for a long time does a few things that you don't want to happen:

The longer you spend with a girl, the more likely you are to mess up and mess with the attraction you may have had going.

You'll make it seem as if you have nothing better to do. It's important to stay busy so girls realize how valuable your time is and they'll hang out WHENEVER you want to, and they will always respect your time.

You look desperate. Hanging around for that long is what boyfriends do. You want to create attraction, not act like you're in some kind of relationship with this girl.

Alpha males have to be in control. Whenever you're talking to a girl, make sure that most of the time you're the one who ends the conversation because you have to meet up with friends or run some errands. Always keep your reasons vague. Never say

I had to meet up with Josh. We went over to his house and watched the simpsons, then played some basketball and hung out for a while.

Giving her that many details is boring and stupid. She'll know exactly what you did, and you leave nothing to her imagination. You told her that you hung out with a GUY friend (she now has no reason to be jealous, and won't have to wonder if you were with other girls. Keep in mind wondering this always creates jealousy which leads to attraction), and, she saw how pathetic your plans were. You look like someone who doesn't know how to have fun.

When you meet a girl for coffee or lunch or whatever, never stay for more than 30-45 minutes. AFC's stick around for hours until they run out of stuff to say. Then, they look like losers. Alpha Males wait until the conversation is at it's climax and the girl is laughing and having a great time, then they throw her off-balance by letting her know that he has to run. This does a couple things:

Shows her that you call your own shots, and don't let women decide your life (if she begs you to stay, DON'T BUDGE. You have other plans!)

You keep her wanting more. You gave her enough to have a great time, but not enough to get bored of you. It was the perfect amount and now she wants more of you.
She realizes that she's not the number one priority in your life, and that you actually have a life. You're busy and have things to do, and your life isn't going to revolve around her.

She'll get jealous and wonder what you're going to do. Will there be other girls there?

She won't understand why you left in the climax of the conversation. Things were going so well and you decided to leave??? No guy has ever done that to her (unless she's dated alphas); she'll start to wonder if there is something wrong with her. When a girl doesn't get the attention she wants, she'll go out seeking that attention. She will do whatever it takes to get you attracted. The important thing is, don't let it phase you. Keep it cool and continue acting alpha. She'll do whatever you want.

Keep the phone conversations brief. Never talk to a girl for more than 10-15 minutes MAX on the phone. I'd usually limit it to 5. The phone prohibits you from kino and eye contact; big factors in the seduction game. The phone is a tool to arrange a time to meet in person.

One more thing i'll say. When girls throw a subtle (or obvious) invite, don't always take it. Here's an example: You and HB are talking. All of a sudden, she says, "It's a beautiful day. I think I'm going to go for a walk." AFC's would say, "Can I come with you?????" That's weak. You want to say (in a calm, relaxed tone) alright, see you later. She'll wonder why you turned down going with her. She'll once again wonder whether or not you're attracted and she'll up her game.

Girls don't like wussies who stick around and do whatever they want. Think about your friends when you went to school: Did you ever want to hang out with the guy that was always home, always down to hang out, and NEVER had any plans? Or, were you always fighting to hang out with the guy who was too busy for you, and everyone wanted to hang out with, and never had any free time? And when this guy wanted to hang out with YOU, I bet you anything you changed your plans because you knew how valuable his time was. You understood that if you didn't hang out with him when HE wanted to, that you may not get another chance because he's so busy. Let girls know that your time is valuable and they'll act the exact same way towards you.

Remember to always keep her wanting more.




Series: Qualities of the Alpha Male
Lesson 2: How to pass the test

Girls like to test you and they will. Here's why...

There are two types of guys: AFC's and Alphas. AFC's [chumps] will agree with what a girl says all the time in order to avoid any difference of opinion. They will pay for her stuff, listen to her problems, and basically do what she wants. Alphas will call a girl on her BS. He won't pay for her $hit (he may on occasion if she did something to deserve it like sleep w/him), and he won't sit there and listen to her problems for hours. His time is much to valuable for that.

Think of children. Lets say Tiffany is babysitting little Tommy for the first time. Can you guess what Tommy is going to do? He's going to do everything that his parents don't tolerate and see how far he can push Tiffany. He's going to see if she's a sucker and if he can get away with what he usually wouldn't be able to. Now keep this in mind: As soon as Tommy discovers that Tiffany is a sucker, what will his attitude towards her be? Do you think he's going to respect her? No way! He's going to walk all over her and take advantage of her. He won't even respect a thing she says. Girls are no different...

Girls will push the limits to see if you're a sucker. A girl may tell you she has no money so that you'll pay for her drink (or just flat out ask you to buy it). If she ever comes over to your place, she'll try to change the cd without asking your permission. If you're talking on the phone and say you have to go, she'll see if she can get you to stay. If you fall for any of these feminine traps, you're going to be just like Tiffany is to Tommy. A wuss. She WILL NOT RESPECT YOU. She'll use you for a couple things:

A. Money -
Not all girls will take advantage of you, but there are quite a few out there who will let you take them out, buy them dinner and expensive gifts, and the whole time, they'll think, "Man, what a sucker. This guy thinks I'm totally into him, when in reality, I can see he lets people walk all over him. What a loser. I wouldn't even kiss this guy."

B. Intellectual Whores (IW) -
Some of you have probably heard this term before, and others right now are like wtf?!? An intellectual whore, as I understand it, is a guy that girls use to talk to about their problems. Basically, a guy that gets used for his brain. lol. Girls will talk to IW's for hours to talk about themselves and their problems. The guy is usually interested in the girl, but the girl has already seen him as a wuss and just wants to use him as an emotional outlet. The guy will think that the girl totally digs him, but the girl has NO INTENTION of anything more. If you talk to a girl for hours on the phone, be careful, because if you aren't an IW yet, you are sure following all the right steps to get there.

C. Friendship -
You will never be Plan A, B, C, or anything at the beginning of the alphabet for that matter. You're her backup plan. When all her other plans fail and she has nothing else to do, she'll know you will be down to hang out.

E. Bragging Rights -
I was one of the biggest AFC's you've ever seen. I was always "the sweetest guy." You should've heard some of the romantic $hit I pulled out of my ass for girls that ended up walking all over me. It was seriously the best you've ever heard of, but no matter what I did, it never worked. NOT ONCE! I used to think that by doing something totally thoughtful and romantic/sweet, the girl would totally fall for me. If you think like this, stop believing what you see in movies cause that only happens in movies. Now think about this: What is the FIRST thing any girl will do if a guy does something really romantic for her? CALL HER FRIENDS AND TELL THEM! Now, you may think you're on the road to high success with women because you just did something sweet, but you have to realize why she calls her friends. All she is doing is bragging. She doesn't think of you as a nice guy, and neither do her friends; she sees you as a chump. When you do something like this for a girl, you've just confessed to her that you're totally head-over-heels for her and that SHE controls YOU! She's calling her friends to let them know that she controls you; not because she likes you. You are another sucker to put in the trophy case.

D. Any other Favors -
If you're good with computers, she'll call you over to fix hers for free or help her with her History project. If you're smart, she'll ask you to tutor her (or if she's really mean, do her homework). If you have a nice car, she'll have you pick her up and drive her ass around so she can be seen in a nice car (not to be seen with YOU like you may have thought).

So the big question is, how you pass these f'ing tests? Here are some steps that are going to help you.

1. Recognize that girls actually do test guys and what their attitudes are towards those who fail
2. Recognize what these tests are (or what they look like) so you're ready
3. Always stay calm and think about your words/actions beforehand (This is especially important if you're just stepping out of AFC-hood)
4. Stand your ground and let her know that you know what she's trying to do, and that you aren't going to fall into her trap.

Well we've covered step 1 already, so now we'll go through steps 2-4 so that you don't get put into the chump category again. I'll give a few examples of some situations, and how I might respond. Now keep in mind there is more than one way to respond. Don't memorize any of this; the goal is to understand the jist of this.

SCENARIO 1 - Coffee Shop
You're standing in line to order/pay for your coffee, and the girl is standing next to you the entire time. When it's your turn, you step up the counter, and ofcourse, she steps up with you. She obviously thinks you're going to pay for her. Most guys would

You: Hey there. I'd like a 16 oz White chocolate Mocha.
Cashier: And for you? :: looks at girl ::
Girl: I'll have a Grande Vanilla Latte with a hint of cinnamon.

Now, you're in a situation you don't exactly want to be in. She set you up so that you'd have to pay for her. Now there are two options: Pay for her or don't.

A) If you pay for her, you're a sucker. I've asked a few of my close girl friends this. When a guy buys a girl a drink or whatever, she thinks of him as a sucker and doesn't respect him (especially if it's the first time together). If you decide to pay for her, you can always say, "I'll get this one, and you can get the next one". But keep in mind: there may not be a next one with this girl.

B) Here's What I would do. If when the cashier says "And for you?", she pauses to think, jump in and say, "Oh these are going to be seperate". haha. This b!tch will be shocked that you just pulled that on her. That's a guy who knows how to f'ing be alpha. If when the cashier asks she orders immediately, then wait until she's done and let the cashier know that these are going to be seperate. If she says she doesn't have any money, you can say, "You came to get coffee and didn't bring any money???" She'll look like a fool. She may say something like, "But I expected you to pay" to which you can say, "I barely even know you. I don't buy drinks for strangers" or something to that effect. Now, she can either pull some money out of her purse to pay, you can tell her "Well I guess you're not going to get any coffee" (or you'd could throw in some c/f "If you do so and so I might let you have a sip of my coffee" *smile* Make her approach somebody and do something embaressing, or tell her she has to make you laugh, or something where the spotlight is on her and you can lay back and watch her pathetic attempts. The third option is to cancel the orders and just go for a walk.

SCENARIO 2 - Begging you to stay

So you've just met this girl, but you know it's not a good idea to spend much time with her. So after about 30-45 minutes, you wait until she's laughing her head off and look at your watch and say,

You: I had a good time, but I've got to catch up with some friends.
Her: :: confused:: Can't you cancel your plans (or) Can't you call them up and tell them you're busy?

Now here she's trying to see if you'll budge for her. Here's a bit of advice.......DONT! Say something like, "I'm sorry, but I've already made plans. I'm not one to make plans then cancel last minute because I have other options." She'll see that you aren't going to fall her for pathetic attempt, that you stick to your plans (and don't flake on people), and, one of the more important points; she'll realize you don't push your friends aside when a girl comes along. You'll look like a guy who is used to having a lot of girls.

One last bit of advice. If she says something you disagree with, don't sit there quietly or pretend to agree. Now you don't want to be negative, so I wouldn't recommend doing it for a worthless or small point, but if it's something you disagree with, let her know. Keep in mind alpha males don't complain or whine. They defend their perspectives with good conversational skills and in a calm, adult-like manner. As soon as you start whining she starts losing respect for you.



Series: Qualities of the Alpha Male
Lesson 3: ONE-itis is a dangerous thing...

You should all know what ONE-itis is by now. If you don't, then why have you skipped this far forward in the thread? Start at the beginning! This is a dangerous disease which has many easy-to-spot symptoms:

1. If when you describe a girl, you use any of the following phrases
- I've never met a girl like her
- She's the most beautiful girl in the world
- We talked on the phone for hours

2. When your relationships end with the girl saying LJBF (lets just be friends)
3. When a girl breaks up with you and you can't sleep or stop thinking about her (She'd only break up w/you if you were an AFC anyways)
4. When you can't stop talking about this girl and how perfect she is
5. When you don't approach other girls
6. When you're so careful about what you do and say, and agree with everything she says because you don't want to hurt/offend her
7. You deny having ONE-itis, yet have never had any "luck" with girls

You should get the point. There are way to many problems with ONE-itis. When you have ONE-itis, you break all the other rules of the game.

1. You linger around because you want to spend all your time with her.
2. She controls you and your decisions are made by her.
4. You're emotionally attached to a girl. When she breaks up with you (and she will break up with you), you will be heart-broken.
5. You don't approach other girls
6. You're not a challenge to her. She's going to get bored and move on.
7. You become overly worried about what she's doing and who she's with. You're always thinking about her, which will make you more likely to call and spend more time with her.
8. You have no Social Proof

8 is a biggie. Social proof is huge. For those of you who aren't familiar with the term, here's an example of it. You're walking around the mall with one of your good looking female friends. Other girls will see you with her, and become attracted to you. I've even asked this to several girls, and they all told me that they are always more attracted to a guy who is with other girls as opposed to a guy who is alone. They wonder what all the fuss is about. When girls see you with other girls, it adds a value to you. The more you're "worth", the less work you will have to do to get girls. One way to make your worth go up is to always be with other girls and always talk to them. The PUA is always talking to atleast 3-5 girls at any given time in his life. You want to make girls jealous, but if you have ONE-itis, it's really not possible. Instead, you become jealous of her when she even talks to a guy friend. She should be jealous of you always talking to other girls.

A perfect example of this is in the movie How to be a Player (dont' recommend it for learning how to become a PUA, but it had a few good points). Anyways, there was this fine ass girl at this party that the guy wanted to get with. He went in the room where she was sitting with a few other girls, looked at all the girls, and asked the ugliest one there to dance (right in front of her). They went out on the dance floor, and the whole time, this hot girl was watching them like a hawk. She got jealous, and didn't understand why he picked this ugly girl over her. She thinks he didn't notice her, and already sets him up to be the one in control. Later on that night they hooked up.

You have to always be talking to other girls. Who cares if they're a 5-6 on the scale, you should practice your techniques on them; just don't pick them up. Girls are so jealous, you can use anyone to make them jealous. Any girls will do the trick, but I've found that girls are extremely jealous about you talking to their close friends (so for those of you in high school listen up). If you're in high school, make an effort to talk to the girls friends (because they will always tell the girl). If the girl you're interested is with her friends, walk up to the group and talk to everyone EXCEPT her. If she tries to butt in in a rude way, say, "That was rude. We were having a conversation. Don't do that again." Then turn your back to her and continue on with the conversation. If she doesn't do anything rude, but merely jumps in cause everyone else is talking, then don't be an ass to her. Just don

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my friend who is a regular on another forum sent this to me since i lack in the area of being a "player".

Lesson #1-Being Prepared

To get girls, you have to have a lot of factors working together for you. But the single area that you have the most control over is your appearance. Its a known fact that to create chemistry with a girl you have to know how to connect with her emotions. Well taking excellent care of yourself will automatically trigger part of her emotions right off the bat. Think about that for a second. You don't even have to say a word to the girl and she'll already be more willing to talk to you because you've triggered her emotions with your appearance. With that being said, here are the guidelines to follow for your appearance.

1-Workout Consistently-Ok I'm not saying that you have to look like Arnold or some Calvin Klein underwear model, but you should definitely go to the gym 3-5x a week and get yourself in decent shape.

2-Wear nice clothes-By "nice" I don't mean Gucci or Armani, just wear clean clothes that fit your body type and style. I think the most important thing here is to find a look that fits you. If your a skinny piece of [censored], don't go wearing XXL football jerseys and huge baggy pants. That will just magnify that fact, that your incredibly underweight. Get a pair of white shoes and black shoes. You can wear those colors with anything and it will show a girl you have a sense of style.

3-Keep all areas clean-Girls are very perceptive. They notice the smallest details about you. Get your haircut regularly. Keep all your nails clipped and clean. Make sure if you have facial hair its always looking good. If you have a fat goatee, then keep it combed, its hair isn't it. Get a beard trimmer if you have that stubble look and keep it trim. Don't have a uni-brow, go to your mom's bathroom and bust out the tweezer's. Same deal goes for nose hairs. As far as other body hair goes, I trim everywhere else. Most girls, well the hot ones, usually only like hair on your head and little bit above your unit.

4-Skin care-Take good care of your skin. Most guys wash their face with soap and water and that's it. I like to go in the steam room after I work out, and eat a lot of fruit. You will be surprised, its makes a huge difference in the way your skin looks. Besides you don't want to break out the night before you hang out with a hot girl.

If you put these four factors together, you should have a higher self-esteem. This will make you more confident which is half the battle with the girls.















Lesson #2-Creating Attraction

When most guys hear a girl say "I'm so attracted to him," they automatically think the girl is refering to the guy's looks. WRONG!!!!! When a girl says she's attracted to a guy its much more than looks, if at all. All these years, we've be bred to think that the way to a girl's heart is to buy her gifts, call her a lot to show how much you care and put her above anything else. Well in the real world that's the furthest thing from the truth. Now most guys who realize this are quick to say, "To get chicks you have to be @ss-hole." That's not true either. Why would a girl want to be with an @ss-hole?? To create attraction you need to understand these 3 principles:

1-Knowing what to say
2-Knowing how to say it
3-Knowing when to say it

Let me explain each of these in more detail:

1-Knowing what to say-If you know what to say to a girl, then you'll get every girl you've every wanted. So how do you know what to say?? Its actually pretty easy. Say the unexpected. The unexpected is what she subconciously wants to hear, but when you say it, she'll say your mean and hit you. I am naturally pretty funny, according to all my friends and family. So I use this to my advantage to bust on the girl and give her a hard time in a non-threating type of way.

2-Knowing how to say it-Your voice tone is SOOOOO IMPORTANT!! Watch a Brad Pitt movie. Analyze his voice in some of the lines he says. Fight Club is actually a really good example of this because Edward Norton's tone of voice is like a mouse who got kicked in the nutz. So you have a perfect example of how to sound and how you shouldn't sound. Pitt's voice is deep and manly. If you think he just naturally talks that way, then your fooling yourself. He practices at it, I can assure you of this. Girls find this very seductive. The best place to practice your tone of voice is on your cell phone voice mail. Think about this advantages of this. Whenever girls call you and you don't pick up, they can hear your voice which will trigger some of their emotions again.

3-Knowing when to say it- The "when to say it" part is not exactly what it seems like. It basically means to say what your going to say within the context of the subject. Meaning, if you guys are having a conversation about the beach, don't change the subject and talk about school.

The basis of creating attraction is making sure you act like a man. Girls are not attracted to wussies. A wussy is someone who is her "best friend" dying in agony, hoping one day he might suddenly get to fuk her. He became a wussy by calling her a lot, agreeing with everything she says and putting her above himself. Don't be that guy. Always remember, that YOU are the most important person in your world. Take care of yourself FIRST then focus on others. Being a man means having an opinion on things. If a girl says something and asks yo how you feel, don't just agree with it because you think that's what she wants to hear. Tell her your side without starting an arguement. Agreeing with her all the time will also put you in the wussy catergory. Often girls have tests. The will say some outrageous bullshiat to you, just to see if you agree or finally have an opnion and disagree.


Lesson #3 The True Pick up Artist Bill of Rights


1-Thou shall always be talking to a minimum of 3-5 girls. Talking to only 1 shall result in the terminal diease called ONE-ITIS! This diease is always fatal and because it is so severe, it has 2 stages.

Common symptom of stage 1 ONE-ITIS are the following:

-thinking she's so much different from any girl you've met.
-thinking she is the most beautiful girl in the world.
-thinking she is very innocent and moral.


Common symptoms of stage 2 ONE-ITIS are the following:

-calling her 2-3x a day, just to talk.
-staying on the phone for 1-2 hours when she calls you.
-analyzing everything she says and does. Example: "I saw Mary-Beth in the hall today, she looked my way, what did she mean by that???"
-completely ignoring every other girl who shows interest in you.
-asking anyone and everyone for advice and to analyze her actions.
-when asking for advice, you explain EVERY LITTLE FUKIN' DETAIL about what she was wearing and how she smiled at you at 1:00pm so the listener can "understand completely."
-thinking your different from the 1,0000000000000 other "good guy friends" she has.

2-Thou shall not throw away any opportunity to practice your pimping skills.

I don't care if you have to practice on 13 year olds, grandma's, hookers etc. As long as they are female, sharpen your PUA skills to perfection.

3-Thou shall use girls to get other girls.

Always take girls with you when you go out, because once other girls see you they'll become intrigued and want to find out what all the fuss is about.

4-Thou shall not choose one girl over another.

If more than one girl wants you, don't choose. Bang both of them until one leaves. That way you get the best of both world's

5-Finally, Thou shall read all pages on this thread, so Sauce-head does not have to fukin' repeat himself over and over and over.

This is self explantory. If I don't have to repeat the same $hit over and over, we have more time and space to discuss advanced pimpin' techinques.





Lesson # 4-Perception

Everyone judges someone when the initially meet them. Whether they try to or not they judge them. Well perception is key with girls. Let's say Billy-Bob is a virgin who has never even kissed a girl. He studies up and learns the skills of becoming a pick-up artist. He then applies these skills to the next girl he meets. The girl will walk away thinking he's a great catch. She'll think he gets tons of hot girls, he's slept with a lot of hot girls and he can get more hot girls whenever he wants. This is what you want to do. You want to create a impressive image in the girl's mind and make her wonder about you. This is commonly what's referred to as being mysterious. So with that being said, here's the rules of perception.

1-Being busy-Let's say a hot girl you've been trying to bang calls you up today. So when your small talking she'll eventually say, "what did you do today?" Here's how a true pick up artist would respond. "Well I actually just walked in the door as the phone was ringing, I've been busy running all types of errands and stuff." Now in reality the true pick up artist could have sat home all day jacking off 33x. But he's painting a picture in this girl's mind that he's very busy and always has something to do. He also is very vague about what exactly he did. Notice how the true pick up artist doesn't explain where he ran his errands. That creates mystery. Girls are very jealous people. They will think that somewhere along your errand trail you might have been with another girl. What does this do? It makes them work harder for your attention and makes it that much easier for you to score. Think about that? You can sit at home and beat the meat all day and actually have a better chance of getting pu$$y..

2-Phone Skills-A true pick up artist also stays on the phone for a veyr brief amount of time for 2 reasons.

a) The less time on the phone means the more mystery there is about you.
b) It prevents you from fuking up and saying something stupid if you only talk for 3 or 4 minutes.
c) It makes her think your busy.

Along with keep the phone conversation short, you should always end the conversation first. This shows her your not needy and have other things to do. She'll think your talking to other girls.

3-Dates are for AFC's-NO FUKIN' DATES!!! You don't pick up a girl, buy her flowers and pay for her dinner on a first date. You meet her at the beach and walk around or you meet her at a coffee house and talk. She pays for her $hit, you pay for yours. Think of this smokin' hot girl just like your best friend. The only difference is she has a really nice pair of juggs and jell-o @ss.. Just like phone conversations, you keep the dates short. Coffee should last about 40-45 minutes. If you ever wonder how long you a get together with a girl should be, use common sense. If you went out with your buddy to get coffee, you probably wouldn't be there for more than 30-40 minutes. Unless your one of those gothic people who bring their guitar and hang out at the coffee shop for 3 hours. Now once you guys have starting fukin' like chimps on Xstacy then you can get a little bit more flashy with your get togethers.

4-Keep phone calls at a 3:1 ratio-I never ever call girls until they have called me 2 or 3 times. I'm not talking about calling a girl back. If a girl calls you, you should call her back. I'm talking about initiating the phone coversation. If she bitches and says, I always call you etc. then your doing good!!!

I'll get more into specfics about how you should be on phone conversations and get togethers in a future "lesson."..LOL


More Rules of "The Game"

Once you've mastered the art of walking up to a girl and getting her number, there's a whole different chapter on the rules from there on out. Such as when to call, what to say etc. So let me discuss these rules a tad bit.

When to Call-Only call girls Sunday-Wednesday. Why?? Because they are more likely to be available during these times of the week. By Thrusday, girls usually have plans for that night and the rest of the weekend. Now during the summer I realize these rules are a little different because schools out, etc. But during the summer most people work, so stick to only calling Sunday-Wednesday.

What to say-When you call a girl, small talk for a minute or two and then lead into a get together. Don't sit there like her bitch and listen to her problems and then ask her to hang out. Remember your a man, not a wuss, you have better things to do. So after you small talk immediately ask for a get together. You do this my first asking her what her schedule is like for the week. She'll say I work this day until XXXX time and this day I have school. So just pick a time after that, simple, she can't say no or lie to you. If she says she can't then you find out she was not interested right away instead of wasting months and months "hanging out" as friends..LOL

What if she doesn't answer?-Well this is where technology comes to your aid. The first thing you should do before you call a girl is put your caller id block on. This gives you a free phone call!!!! Its a win win situation. If she answers then you can talk, if she doesn't then she'll never know who called her. Which leads me to my next point. DO NOT LEAVE A MESSAGE!! Until you've made the first contact with a girl on the phone don't leave a message. Because your still a stranger to her and even if she's interested, she won't call you back(dumb chick logic).

3's the Charm-3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3!!! Why in the fuk am I typing 3 over and over again?? Because if you only learn one thing from this thread about phone calls it should be this number. That's the MAXIMUM number of times you should call a girl when your trying to make the initial contact with her. Here are the rules for this:

1st phone call-caller id block on, if she doesn't answer DO NOT LEAVE A MESSAGE. Why? Because its a free-phone call, she'll never know who called... -dirty little trick

2nd phone call-caller id block on again, if she doesn't answer DO NOT LEAVE A MESSAGE. Now the timing on the second phone call can be anywhere from a hour or two from the first one or a day later. Because remember she doesn't know who called the first time.

3rd phone call-You put unlock the caller id. If she doesn't answer, leave a message. Your message should say something cocky/funny. For example: (girl's name), its Sauce-head, you can finally put on a clean diaper because your master has called you. Now I know some of you are saying, "how cheesy" or "that won't make her call you back." Well if you don't sell it right then it won't. That's why I mentioned your voice tone earlier. Trust me, you say this right and sell it to her, she'll call you back within a hour or two.

However, it should NEVER get to the point where you have to call her 2 or 3 times, because if you used your PUA skills and laid down the cocky/funny, she will answer her phone all day because she's been waiting for your call. Which leads me to my next point.

Jumping off the Mountain when your on Top!!-WTF does that mean? Remember when I said to always end EVERYTHING first? Well make sure you end it when its at its peak!!! If your on the phone with a girl and your making her laugh and giggle, she's obviously enjoying the conversation. Well end it there!!!! Because when you guys get off the phone, she'll be thinking about you the rest of the day. Same goes for get togethers, make them want more. This is actually the rule I use when I'm hooking up too. Just think of it this way. Take 2 steps back and she'll pull you 1,000 steps forward




Lesson # 5-Lines

I know girls tell you "lines" don't work. Well that's because they are not the right ones.. The key to understanding lines is to say them as if they are not a line. Does that make sense?? You can make these lines effective by hiding them in the middle of a conversation. But here are common "lines" to use.

Openers:

-"Hi" and smile.
-"I noticed you when I walked in and wanted to talk to you."
-"Nice shoes" let's fuk.. just kidding

Closers:
- You:"What's your schedule like for the week?"
Her: Well I'm have work until XXXX time and school on this day."
You: You should join me for XXXX on this day.
-Its important that you say this line just like that. Tell her that your going somewhere and she should JOIN you. This implies that you already had plans to go regardless of whether she goes or not. This works much better than, "will you go out with me on Tuesday??" That's the wussy way, your asking for her persmission.

Number Closer:

You know (girl's name) you seem like a lot of fun to be around, we should get together some time?"

-This works ESPECIALLY WELL on 9's and 10's because they are so use to getting the usual bull$hit compliments about how "pretty they are." The powerful thing about this closer is, you are not asking for her number. Your telling her she's fun to be around. She'll be so excited after you tell her this that her next line will be "let me give you my number." I bet you $10000000 if you do everything preceeding to this correctly that when you say this line, her response will be to offer her number.

-Also by her offering YOU her number she'll emotionally think she likes you. Don't believe me? Just think about how a girl interprets you walking up to her and saying "Can I have your number??" She knows she has you by the ballz and its not exciting to chase a pushover. Food for thought.


These are the usual closers with varations depending upon what we were talking about before and the social setting.



aproaching girls

this may be slightly different to how it works in america,or even girls in a different part of england,but heres how it works wit the girls up here and id expect it to apply everwhere.

first off if you are with a group of guys and you see a group of girls hanging out,dont stare drooling,dont shout stupid [censored] at them that makes you look like a dipshit,find something to start a conversation,look around,could be anything,i like to use a joke.
dont go up and go ''errr umm,hi how you erm doin?'' believe it or not many,many ***gots are like this when talking to girls,they dont bite you know!

once you have started talking you can ask there names and [censored],and ask a bit about themselves,this is where it gets easy,girls like to rabit on about bullshit that you dont care about,and you dont have to do much of the talking cos it will be hard to get them too shut the **** up,dont praise them,thats for ***gots,a nice compliment here and there wont hurt,but sucking up and telling them how pretty they are is for loosers and wont get you nowhere apart from looking desparate.

take it from there,you can swap phone nos and see each other later,go on to hang out somewhere,if they are interested go for it!if not **** them,find some more bitches.if you cant take it from there then there is no hope

i find [censored] like this hard to put into words but it is very basic stuff,genaraly,just lay the foundation and present yourselves as cool guys who they want to hang out with,dont try and be their friends,always keep it so they look at you as a potential sexual partner,maybe throw in the odd sexual joke here and there and [censored].



Practice Makes Perfect-

To get good with girls, you have to prioritize it. Just like lifting, you gotta stay consistent with your meals and training to see results. One of the best ways to get good with girls is to practice your communication and non-verbal communication skills. Now just like in lifting, you didn't go to the gym on your 1st day and squat 3 plates. You started at a much lower weight and built yourself up to 3 plates. Same $hit goes for girls. I know a lot of you are won't admit it, but your very intimidated by really attractive girls. You get all nervous and have no clue what to say . So start off on that really ugly chick in your science class. Or that nerdy girl in math. Of course you would never want to hook up with these girls, but use them as bait to practice for the big fish... Here's what your goals should be:

1-Approach 5 random girls everyday for a week that are between 1-5 on looks. Start a conversation with them about ANYTHING!! Notice how your not intimadated by them AT ALL?? Talking to these girls and being confident is easy. Why? Because you know your better than them. That should be the mentality you have with EVERY GIRL!! Anyway, your focus isn't even to get their numbers or fuk them, its to become comfortable in front of girls in general.

2-For the next 2 weeks approach 5 more girls everyday that are between a 6-7 on looks. Do the same thing, just get comfortable talking to them.

After this 3 week period, your conversation skills(eye contact, voice tone, the way you walk, Alpha Male skills) should have improved dramatically. So now your ready to step up to the majors and talk to the really hot girl with the big fake tits, or the hot blonde who is a Britney Spears look-alike. Now to keep yourself from getting nervous in front of the really hot girls, just keep this in mind: Talk about ANYTHING EXCEPT THEIR LOOKS!!! They know how hot they are and when they hear that 20x a day, they almost take it as an insult and automatically think you just want to fuk them.(Of course you do. ) Even worse they label you as a "nice-guy wussy." Did you know that girls decide within 5 minutes of meeting you, whether or not they'd have sex with you? So just think, if you can be Alpha-confident PUA for 10 minutes, you've got it made.. Girls that are really attractive want to be appreciated for anything except their looks. Keep that in mind and you'll do well. And if you fear rejection or a girl laughing at you, you shouldn't. 99% of the time a girl will be friendly, even if she 's not interested in you. So go get some hours in the batting cage and practice for your big at bat.




THE SCALE...

Ok in my last post I mentioned "THE SCALE." Now I know there are a ton of different varations of this, but here's the most accurate one I've heard of.

The scale is 1-10, here are the catergories.

Face 0-2 pts
Tits 0-2 pts
@ss 0-2 pts
Legs 0-2 pts
Personality 0-2 pts

So let's say a girl is "cute." That deserves a 1.5. Let's say she has "nice" tits. That deserves a 1. Let's say she has a "ok" @ss. That's a 0.5 as well. Let's say she has "good" legs. That's a 1.5 And a really great personality. That's a 2. So this girl would be a 6.5 on the scale.


So now that you know how the scale works, let's talk about how exactly you talk to a girl who's a 6 and how that differs from a girl that's a 8. Here's the general rules:

1-5: These girls are average and below average looking. They know they're not the cream of the crop, so don't bust their balls too much and throw in a compliment or 2. DON'T OVER-DO THE COMPLIMENTS, 2 MAX!!!! These girls are not confident, so if you boost their ego slightly, they'll be more receptive to talking to you.

6-7: These are the girls who are labeled as "cute." They know they're not SUPER-HOT, but they definitely are confident and know they're better than average. With these girls, 1 compliment will do. Your compliments need to flow with the conversation, don't just tell her she has a great personality, when she's talking about sedimentary rock formations.

8-10: These girls have a bubble around them. The only guys who get to be inside their bubble is the guys who show that their not intimidated AT ALL!! These girls get NO COMPLIMENTS!!! In fact you should give them Negative Hits. If you don't know what that is, read the first page of this thread. Like I said above, mention anything but their looks. Tease them about the little things, tell them they write sloppy or ask them if she cried because a strand of hair is out of place etc. Do this in a playful way, so she knows your teasing but your REALLY NOT.. Do not apologize or kiss-@ss to these girls AT ALL!! Let's say hot girl X gives you her number. She tells you to call her at 8:00pm. You get busy and end up calling her at 8:35 pm. When you call, talk to her like everythings chill. She will then ask you why you didn't call earlier. Just tell her you were busy doing some things. Be vague, don't say, "I went to Mcdonalds and then I shaved my @ss." Just say you were busy. Is this starting to make sense? Ok, if you've got questions, I've got answers, so let me know what you think.





Lesson # 6 -Dating Show Education

Alright, I'll be the first one to admit it, when I have free time I'm watching all those dating shows. You know Blind date, Fifth wheel etc. In the beginning I use to just watch them for hot chicks. However now, I dissect each date and figure out if the guy is a total AFC or if he's a Alpha male. Once you mastered the concept of how the Alpha male is suppose to act and all the techniques behind it, you'll realize that shows like these are a invaluable lesson to getting you laid. They teach you EXACTLY how to act and how NOT to act. For example, I was watching Blind date a week ago. The girl was SMOKIN'!! She was in excellent shape, had a nice deep tan, with a tremendous pair of fake tits. She was a 8 on my scale. The guy was a normal looking business guy. They met eachother in a courtyard and they sit down and have a glass of wine to start off with. Immediately the guy is blatantly staring at her tits and just salivating like a dog. He then initiates the 1st of many compliments to her. He tells her how beautiful she is. She slightly rolls her eyes and says "thanks." The way she did this completley proved that really hot girls take compliments on the obvious like an insult. If you compliment these girls they want to hear something different, something unique that sets you apart. But they NEVER want to hear you compliment them within 20 minutes of your get-together. Anyway, they are driving in the car and the guy is just at a loss for words. He then asks her if she works out. She says "yes." And he says, yeah I was staring at your body and noticed you were in excellent shape. She once again roles her eyes and says "thanks." This AFC was so excited about the prospect of hooking up with the fake titted hottie that he didn't know what to do or say. Keep in mind the entire time he was talking he had a huge grin on his face. Then they go to dinner and he says, "umm err, I have to ask you something?" She says "what." He says, "are your breasts real??" She unhappily says "NO!" They then went to a bar. They're chillin at the bar and he's again telling her what beautiful HAIR SHE HAS!! WTF is wrong with this dood!! Is he a fukin' [censored], who gives a $hit about her hair. The dude had a couple glasses of wine at dinner and they had to get a taxi ride home. At this point he realized he had no chance so he let his di-ck do the talking. In the taxi he asked her if she wants to spend the night or come in for a few minutes. This was the topping on the KING AFC CAKE!! The lady politely declined. I think the fact that she was on TV made her act a little nicer to him than she would have. When they finally get to his door, he says alright well, "give me a hug." She taps him on the shoulder and says "Good night." He then asks her if she wants to spend the night or come in AGAIN!!!

Ok, has this taught you guys anything. This guy had a GOLDEN opportunity to bang a smokin' smokin' hot chick. All he had to do was play it cool, have a good conversation and he would have been in. Instead he drooled and complimented her, and complimented her and complimented her. He gave her the impression that he hasn't been laid in a long time and it was probably true. It was so pathetic, the guy was a complete tool. Start making it a habit to watch these shows when you can. Break down the entire date from start to finish. Look for signs of interest when the daters first meet eachother. Such as body language, conversation and voice tone. These shows basically spoon feed you the way to get laid. They have the confessional moments and post date wrap up where the girl tells you what she was REALLY thinking. My point is you should utilize all the tools that help you perfect your craft. Put it this way, if you had the perfect body you would still work out right? Of course you would. Because you don't want to lose what you have and you want to gain more!! Bingo. Once you have left your AFC days behind you and become a good PUA, you want to get better. You want to become a master. So you keep on practicing. Keep that in mind. And WTF does it take to get this thread to be A STICKY????




Lesson # 7-A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing!!!

Ok if you guys really look into the Alpha male attitude, its all about walking around with a exceptionally high level of confidence. All the PUA around have told you that your looks are not THAT important to your success with the opposite sex. So those of you who have learned how to play the game have embraced that and had good results with hot chicks. Well what about dealing with girls who act this way??? Now I'm not talking about girls who are 8's, 9's or 10's. These girls are exceptionally hot in our books and they know it. They've built up a tough skin to wussies and chumps who act like their bitch. What I'm talking about are girls who are 5's, 6's and 7's who ACT like they're a 8,9 or 10. Now a lot of guys will make the mistake of using the scale on a girl and they planning to proceed with that mentality. For example lets say your at a party. You see a girl and you do the scale on her. She comes out to a 6.5 So you think, "hey she's a 6.5, she'll probably like a few compliments and a decent guy attitude. If I'm cocky she'll HATE IT!!" This would be a key mistake!! Because until you have a conversation with a girl you don't know what her perception of herself is. This is why I believe its VERY IMPORTANT to do the initial approach and then let the girl talk for a little bit. Feel her out(not literally ) and see what her angle is. What your looking for is her bitch shield, her confidence and her receptiveness towards your advance. If you learn this it shoud help a lot of you hit homeruns when you otherwise might have struck-out.

So you might be asking, "how in the world would a girl who's about a 5, act like she's a 9??" Well, the answer is, through learning the game. She probably got tired of getting guy's she wasn't into or no guys at all. So she figured just like all the past-AFC's on this board did, that she needs to adjust her mindset and attitude towards the opposite sex.


Also I really want to stress how important it is to practice everytime you can. Pimp it on the fat chick you saw at the mall. Who cares!! Its not like your actually going to hook up with her, your just building your confidence one step at a time.





Every girl is different; some do things others wouldn't do to show they're interested. But in general, body language is a good way to tell.

If when you guys talk, she's genuinely interested. You guys hold eye contact for longer than you would with other people. If her head is slightly tilted rather than straight up. If you're sitting next to eachother, if her leg is crossed towards you (it may be crossed away but that's not always a bad sign). The important thing with body language is to notice changes in body language. For example, some girls naturally cross their arms because it's a comfortable position. You can't interpret her having her arms crossed as a sign that she isn't open to you. However, if you two are talking and something happens in the conversation that makes her cross her arms, it's usually a good sign that what you said bothered her.

If you say something funny/cocky and the girl hits you gently or pushes you as she laughs, that's a big hint. If you're leaving she'll ask you "where are you going" suggesting an invite. If she laughs a lot. If you're standing there and she comes up close into your personal space.

I remember one girl earlier this year that wasn't too interested in me (cause I was being AFC. I started to un-knowingly pay less attention to her). Anyways, I brought her with me to a computer store to pick up a present for someone and noticed her really coming into my personal space. She'd be really close all the time. When I'd stop to look at something, she'd come in close and put her head on my shoulder or chest and try to look on with me. This was a huge hint. She was totally interested by this time, and this was the first of many hints for me to pick up on it.

There are so many ways to tell; these are just a few ways. But honestly, if you just watch her, it's really clear when a girl is interested. Girls usually expect guys to make the first move, so when they're interested, they'll let you know. You just have to be receptive enough to pick up on it. Some girls are more subtle than others.

watching a movie may not be the most ideal way to get kino started. some may disagree, but you can't really watch her and the movie. if you're in a movie you may see if she is leaning your way, constantly watching you, if a sex scene or romantic scene comes up you watch her reaction to you and her. for the movie i would just grab her hand like an alpha male would, she will either like it or not. let you hold it or not. don't be a wuss and half ass grab it. but you need to time it and romantic scenes in a movie may help or scary scenes.

another thing don't just grab her with no mental connection, get some rapport going. you mentioned back rub, it depends how you set it up. in a movie i would go for the hand grab, a back rub if you had no other kino going escallates it too fast. start small like touching her arm in conversation, then a hold her hand, then a back rub may fit. but no touching straight to a back rub and she will definately get pissed.

i feel that you need to atleast touch your mark once, but no more than 3 times in a date or pick up. more is too touchy and she may think you're a creep. less and she may think you're a wuss and not get sexually attached. you could be telling her a story and touch her arm, or lead her into a door and touch her arm. things like this work just make it natural. also be aware she may not want you to touch specific places if she is sensitive there(like feel self concious) so an arm or hand touch may be less intrusive initially. later you can get it going more if she touches you back. reciprocates.
You have to use the old yawn routine , do a really loud yawn then move in for the kill , Only joking dude !, Again this is a body language situation, her body language should signal whether she wants you to do this ! In my opinion its better to touch her, then not have touched at all ! Once you have touched her notice her reactions to then halt or continue doing it ! Bodylanguage is the key to knowing that you are making progress or to realise that you are not making progress. !!

Here is some Body language tips from fast seduction 101

Her lips:

Big smiles with upper and lower teeth showing with a relaxed face.
Biting of the lips or showing of the tongue, licking her lips or touching of her front teeth.
She wets her lips, some women use only a single-lip lick, wetting the upper or lower lip, while others run the tongue around the entire lip area.
She puts her fingernail between her teeth.
She protrudes her lips and thrust her breasts forward.
Her eyes:

She gazes in your eyes with deep interest and her pupils are dilated.
She raises both eyebrows exaggeratedly for a couple of seconds, this is often combined with a smile and some eye contact.
She winks at you while talking to you or winks at you from a distance.
While talking to you, she blinks more than usual, fluttering her eyelashes.
Eyebrows raised and then lowered, then a smile indicates interest in you.
Her hair:

She pushes her fingers through her hair. This can be one hand movement or more of a stroking motion.
She twirls her hair around her fingers while she is looking at you.
She is throwing her hair back off her shoulders.
Her clothing:

If she is wearing clothes that show her nipples underneath and you notice they are getting perky and erect.
The hem goes up to expose a little more leg.
She is fixing, patting or smoothing her outfit to make herself look better.
While she is seated:

She moves in time to the music, with her eyes on you.
She starts sitting straight up and her muscles appear to be firm.
She is sitting with her legs open.
She sits with her legs crossed in a manner to reveal her thigh.
Her legs are rubbing against each other.
Her legs are rubbing against the leg of the table.
Her crossed leg is pointed towards you or if that same leg is rocking back and forth towards you.
Her hands:

She exposes the palms of her hand facing you.
While talking to you, she rests an elbow in the palm of one hand, while holding out her other hand, palm up.
She rubs her wrists up and down.
She sits with one hand touching one of her breasts.
She rubs her chin or touches her cheek. This indicates that she's thinking about you and her relating in some way
She is fondling keys, sliding hands up and down a glass, playing with toys or other things on the table.
She plays with her jewellery, especially with stroking and pulling motions.
She touches your arm, shoulder, thigh, or hand while talking to you (in case you already haven't started kino yourself, dumbass .
She is pretending to look at her watch as you pass her.
Her voice

She raises or lowers the volume of her voice to match yours.
She speeds up or slows down her speaking to match yours.
She laughs in unison with you.
In a crowd she speaks only to you and focuses all of her undivided attention on you.
Micellaneous:

She mirrors your body language and body positions.
Her skin tone becomes red while being around you.
She blows smoke straight out from between her lips and toward you.
She leans over and speaks into her friend's ear, just like in junior high school.
She is standing with her head cocked slightly at an angle, one foot behind the other, hips slightly thrust forward.
At a party - every once in a while she seems to appear out of nowhere in your vicinity and if you move to another spot, soon she appears out of nowhere again, you catch her glancing in your general direction (actually, glancing at YOU dummy! , she bumps into you… accidentally, touches you… accidentally etc

Another big thing I've noticed people do when they're starting is they don't listen to the girl. They're so wound up with what they're going to say next that they don't listen. Conversation should always flow smoothly. You can change the subject 6 times and she shouldn't notice because you're relating it to something she just said. But if you ask 6 different questions that have nothing to do with what she just said, it sounds like you're asking her a ton of questions and she might get offended or feel uncomfortable.

Listen to the girl and feed off of that. Good practice is to just go up and talk to people (as someone mentioned a few posts up) and just have regular conversation. Practice listening to what they say and changing the subject smoothly based on what they say. Make it your goal to control the conversation. You should be calling all the shots (girls like this, especially if you can pull it off subtly). Avoid any awkward silences and make sure the first question you ask is open-ended (meaning a question that requires more than a yes or no answer). If they say they like something, ask them why or how it makes them feel. Then, relate to them using "me too" phrases. Let them do most of the talking, and don't give away everything there is to know about you. Keep a mystery to yourself so the girl is always wanting more.




Lesson: How to tailor to different girls

Every girl is different and needs to be handled differently, but how do you know what you should do differently?

What if every girl you met would tell you exactly how to seduce her? If she would tell you all the ways to turn her on; what qualities the guys she is attracted to have, or what not to try on her. Wouldn't that be great?

Well, girls will tell you step-by-step how to seduce them and what you have to do. It's not very hard to get out of a girl; they love talking about this. So the question is, how do you get her to tell you all this?

It all falls on your conversational skills. If you know how to talk to people, you're going to pick this up easy. If you still respond to people with "ummm....cool" or with awkward silences, you got a ways to go.

Men and women are totally different when it comes to conversation. Women want to FEEL things. They want to talk about how they FEEL and why they feel that way. Men want facts. They could care less about feelings. I'm sorry to break it to you, but if you want to create any type of attraction to this girl, unless she's a complete bimbo, you're going to have to have conversations that lead to feelings. When she gives you facts, take that a step further and get her to turn that fact into feelings. This will make more sense later. The good news is that she'll be doing most of the talking. All you do is jump in here and there to guide the conversation and get valuable information out of her.

So what kinds of questions do you want to ask a girl? Well, there are plenty of question you could ask; here are a few:

What qualities do you look for in a guy?
This is a great one, but you're going to have to make sure you get quality answers. Keep in mind you want feelings also. So if she says she wants a confident/decisive man, you remember those two words then ask her how having a confident man makes her feel or what it does for her as opposed to being with a guy who can't make decisions for himself. She may say something like, "Guys who are confident are a big turn-on" (something should click here: TURN ON. Make sure you're confident if you want a chance with this chick). Or she may say I feel really [whatever] when a guy is confident.

What's it like when you BECOME HOPELESSLY ATTRACTED
This is a Ross Jeffries line, the caps are obviously an embedded command commanding her subconciously to become hopelessly attracted. I haven't tested embeded commands much (maybe saucehead can throw in some results if he's ever tried it), but either way, it's a good question to ask. It does two things. A) In order for her to answer this question, she has to remember a time when she was hopelessly attracted. This will bring back feelings and put her in that state of attraction; she will associate attraction with you. B) She will tell you what it's like when she is attracted, or what the guy did. Make sure you listen to what she says; she's giving you step-by-step instructions.

You can ask her about good or bad experiences with dating. How they made her feel. If you're at a place where people are walking by, you can point out random guys and say "Just by looking at this guy, would you ever consider dating him. Why or why not?"..."Do you think it would last?". Besides being entertaining and different from what other guys would ask her (girls eat this $hit up), she's going to tell you all about first impressions. This will help you in general, but you'll also know what kinds of guys she goes for; you can notice similarities in styles/clothing/hair, she'll tell you turn-ons and turn-offs when it comes to clothing (you should be a good dresser already, but for those of you who need some work, this is a good opportunity to get girls advice), and how she judges people without even talking to them.

Anyways, you guys get the picture. Ask her questions that will get her talking for a while. A girl can talk for hours about this stuff; you will get TONS of valuable tools to use on her, and the best thing is, she won't even know that she's giving you an Operation Manual to herself.

And here's a big piece of advice most guys don't realize when they're trying to seduce a woman: You can seduce a woman just by talking to her and stimulating her mind. In fact, you can get her horny as fvck (especially the more intelligent ones). But remember, when it's comes to turning a woman on, women are like volume knobs and men are like on/off switches. All you have to do to turn on a guy is....well....guys are usually pretty horny all the time. A girl needs to be stimulated. If you can talk to a girl and slowly turn the knob of arousal up, you're going to close a lot of deals.

But most importantly, LISTEN TO WHAT SHE IS SAYING. Remember $hit. It's going to be what determines your success or failure.



Series: Qualities of the Alpha Male
Lesson 1: Possess the ability to Walk away

Intro:
I'm hoping to do a series on some qualities alpha males have so people can start acquiring some of these qualities and attract women. The questions would drop significantly on this thread if people had these qualities. I hope saucehead will jump in on this series and post a few lessons. These qualities aren't necesarily in any particular order.

So this post is about being able to walk away from a girl. One of the biggest AFC mistakes is that the linger around too long. They get an opportunity to hang out with a girl (AFC's get opportunity's, alpha males GIVE opportunities), and they think that the longer they stick around, the better their chances will be. Hanging around for a long time does a few things that you don't want to happen:

The longer you spend with a girl, the more likely you are to mess up and mess with the attraction you may have had going.

You'll make it seem as if you have nothing better to do. It's important to stay busy so girls realize how valuable your time is and they'll hang out WHENEVER you want to, and they will always respect your time.

You look desperate. Hanging around for that long is what boyfriends do. You want to create attraction, not act like you're in some kind of relationship with this girl.

Alpha males have to be in control. Whenever you're talking to a girl, make sure that most of the time you're the one who ends the conversation because you have to meet up with friends or run some errands. Always keep your reasons vague. Never say

I had to meet up with Josh. We went over to his house and watched the simpsons, then played some basketball and hung out for a while.

Giving her that many details is boring and stupid. She'll know exactly what you did, and you leave nothing to her imagination. You told her that you hung out with a GUY friend (she now has no reason to be jealous, and won't have to wonder if you were with other girls. Keep in mind wondering this always creates jealousy which leads to attraction), and, she saw how pathetic your plans were. You look like someone who doesn't know how to have fun.

When you meet a girl for coffee or lunch or whatever, never stay for more than 30-45 minutes. AFC's stick around for hours until they run out of stuff to say. Then, they look like losers. Alpha Males wait until the conversation is at it's climax and the girl is laughing and having a great time, then they throw her off-balance by letting her know that he has to run. This does a couple things:

Shows her that you call your own shots, and don't let women decide your life (if she begs you to stay, DON'T BUDGE. You have other plans!)

You keep her wanting more. You gave her enough to have a great time, but not enough to get bored of you. It was the perfect amount and now she wants more of you.
She realizes that she's not the number one priority in your life, and that you actually have a life. You're busy and have things to do, and your life isn't going to revolve around her.

She'll get jealous and wonder what you're going to do. Will there be other girls there?

She won't understand why you left in the climax of the conversation. Things were going so well and you decided to leave??? No guy has ever done that to her (unless she's dated alphas); she'll start to wonder if there is something wrong with her. When a girl doesn't get the attention she wants, she'll go out seeking that attention. She will do whatever it takes to get you attracted. The important thing is, don't let it phase you. Keep it cool and continue acting alpha. She'll do whatever you want.

Keep the phone conversations brief. Never talk to a girl for more than 10-15 minutes MAX on the phone. I'd usually limit it to 5. The phone prohibits you from kino and eye contact; big factors in the seduction game. The phone is a tool to arrange a time to meet in person.

One more thing i'll say. When girls throw a subtle (or obvious) invite, don't always take it. Here's an example: You and HB are talking. All of a sudden, she says, "It's a beautiful day. I think I'm going to go for a walk." AFC's would say, "Can I come with you?????" That's weak. You want to say (in a calm, relaxed tone) alright, see you later. She'll wonder why you turned down going with her. She'll once again wonder whether or not you're attracted and she'll up her game.

Girls don't like wussies who stick around and do whatever they want. Think about your friends when you went to school: Did you ever want to hang out with the guy that was always home, always down to hang out, and NEVER had any plans? Or, were you always fighting to hang out with the guy who was too busy for you, and everyone wanted to hang out with, and never had any free time? And when this guy wanted to hang out with YOU, I bet you anything you changed your plans because you knew how valuable his time was. You understood that if you didn't hang out with him when HE wanted to, that you may not get another chance because he's so busy. Let girls know that your time is valuable and they'll act the exact same way towards you.

Remember to always keep her wanting more.




Series: Qualities of the Alpha Male
Lesson 2: How to pass the test

Girls like to test you and they will. Here's why...

There are two types of guys: AFC's and Alphas. AFC's [chumps] will agree with what a girl says all the time in order to avoid any difference of opinion. They will pay for her stuff, listen to her problems, and basically do what she wants. Alphas will call a girl on her BS. He won't pay for her $hit (he may on occasion if she did something to deserve it like sleep w/him), and he won't sit there and listen to her problems for hours. His time is much to valuable for that.

Think of children. Lets say Tiffany is babysitting little Tommy for the first time. Can you guess what Tommy is going to do? He's going to do everything that his parents don't tolerate and see how far he can push Tiffany. He's going to see if she's a sucker and if he can get away with what he usually wouldn't be able to. Now keep this in mind: As soon as Tommy discovers that Tiffany is a sucker, what will his attitude towards her be? Do you think he's going to respect her? No way! He's going to walk all over her and take advantage of her. He won't even respect a thing she says. Girls are no different...

Girls will push the limits to see if you're a sucker. A girl may tell you she has no money so that you'll pay for her drink (or just flat out ask you to buy it). If she ever comes over to your place, she'll try to change the cd without asking your permission. If you're talking on the phone and say you have to go, she'll see if she can get you to stay. If you fall for any of these feminine traps, you're going to be just like Tiffany is to Tommy. A wuss. She WILL NOT RESPECT YOU. She'll use you for a couple things:

A. Money -
Not all girls will take advantage of you, but there are quite a few out there who will let you take them out, buy them dinner and expensive gifts, and the whole time, they'll think, "Man, what a sucker. This guy thinks I'm totally into him, when in reality, I can see he lets people walk all over him. What a loser. I wouldn't even kiss this guy."

B. Intellectual Whores (IW) -
Some of you have probably heard this term before, and others right now are like wtf?!? An intellectual whore, as I understand it, is a guy that girls use to talk to about their problems. Basically, a guy that gets used for his brain. lol. Girls will talk to IW's for hours to talk about themselves and their problems. The guy is usually interested in the girl, but the girl has already seen him as a wuss and just wants to use him as an emotional outlet. The guy will think that the girl totally digs him, but the girl has NO INTENTION of anything more. If you talk to a girl for hours on the phone, be careful, because if you aren't an IW yet, you are sure following all the right steps to get there.

C. Friendship -
You will never be Plan A, B, C, or anything at the beginning of the alphabet for that matter. You're her backup plan. When all her other plans fail and she has nothing else to do, she'll know you will be down to hang out.

E. Bragging Rights -
I was one of the biggest AFC's you've ever seen. I was always "the sweetest guy." You should've heard some of the romantic $hit I pulled out of my ass for girls that ended up walking all over me. It was seriously the best you've ever heard of, but no matter what I did, it never worked. NOT ONCE! I used to think that by doing something totally thoughtful and romantic/sweet, the girl would totally fall for me. If you think like this, stop believing what you see in movies cause that only happens in movies. Now think about this: What is the FIRST thing any girl will do if a guy does something really romantic for her? CALL HER FRIENDS AND TELL THEM! Now, you may think you're on the road to high success with women because you just did something sweet, but you have to realize why she calls her friends. All she is doing is bragging. She doesn't think of you as a nice guy, and neither do her friends; she sees you as a chump. When you do something like this for a girl, you've just confessed to her that you're totally head-over-heels for her and that SHE controls YOU! She's calling her friends to let them know that she controls you; not because she likes you. You are another sucker to put in the trophy case.

D. Any other Favors -
If you're good with computers, she'll call you over to fix hers for free or help her with her History project. If you're smart, she'll ask you to tutor her (or if she's really mean, do her homework). If you have a nice car, she'll have you pick her up and drive her ass around so she can be seen in a nice car (not to be seen with YOU like you may have thought).

So the big question is, how you pass these f'ing tests? Here are some steps that are going to help you.

1. Recognize that girls actually do test guys and what their attitudes are towards those who fail
2. Recognize what these tests are (or what they look like) so you're ready
3. Always stay calm and think about your words/actions beforehand (This is especially important if you're just stepping out of AFC-hood)
4. Stand your ground and let her know that you know what she's trying to do, and that you aren't going to fall into her trap.

Well we've covered step 1 already, so now we'll go through steps 2-4 so that you don't get put into the chump category again. I'll give a few examples of some situations, and how I might respond. Now keep in mind there is more than one way to respond. Don't memorize any of this; the goal is to understand the jist of this.

SCENARIO 1 - Coffee Shop
You're standing in line to order/pay for your coffee, and the girl is standing next to you the entire time. When it's your turn, you step up the counter, and ofcourse, she steps up with you. She obviously thinks you're going to pay for her. Most guys would

You: Hey there. I'd like a 16 oz White chocolate Mocha.
Cashier: And for you? :: looks at girl ::
Girl: I'll have a Grande Vanilla Latte with a hint of cinnamon.

Now, you're in a situation you don't exactly want to be in. She set you up so that you'd have to pay for her. Now there are two options: Pay for her or don't.

A) If you pay for her, you're a sucker. I've asked a few of my close girl friends this. When a guy buys a girl a drink or whatever, she thinks of him as a sucker and doesn't respect him (especially if it's the first time together). If you decide to pay for her, you can always say, "I'll get this one, and you can get the next one". But keep in mind: there may not be a next one with this girl.

B) Here's What I would do. If when the cashier says "And for you?", she pauses to think, jump in and say, "Oh these are going to be seperate". haha. This b!tch will be shocked that you just pulled that on her. That's a guy who knows how to f'ing be alpha. If when the cashier asks she orders immediately, then wait until she's done and let the cashier know that these are going to be seperate. If she says she doesn't have any money, you can say, "You came to get coffee and didn't bring any money???" She'll look like a fool. She may say something like, "But I expected you to pay" to which you can say, "I barely even know you. I don't buy drinks for strangers" or something to that effect. Now, she can either pull some money out of her purse to pay, you can tell her "Well I guess you're not going to get any coffee" (or you'd could throw in some c/f "If you do so and so I might let you have a sip of my coffee" *smile* Make her approach somebody and do something embaressing, or tell her she has to make you laugh, or something where the spotlight is on her and you can lay back and watch her pathetic attempts. The third option is to cancel the orders and just go for a walk.

SCENARIO 2 - Begging you to stay

So you've just met this girl, but you know it's not a good idea to spend much time with her. So after about 30-45 minutes, you wait until she's laughing her head off and look at your watch and say,

You: I had a good time, but I've got to catch up with some friends.
Her: :: confused:: Can't you cancel your plans (or) Can't you call them up and tell them you're busy?

Now here she's trying to see if you'll budge for her. Here's a bit of advice.......DONT! Say something like, "I'm sorry, but I've already made plans. I'm not one to make plans then cancel last minute because I have other options." She'll see that you aren't going to fall her for pathetic attempt, that you stick to your plans (and don't flake on people), and, one of the more important points; she'll realize you don't push your friends aside when a girl comes along. You'll look like a guy who is used to having a lot of girls.

One last bit of advice. If she says something you disagree with, don't sit there quietly or pretend to agree. Now you don't want to be negative, so I wouldn't recommend doing it for a worthless or small point, but if it's something you disagree with, let her know. Keep in mind alpha males don't complain or whine. They defend their perspectives with good conversational skills and in a calm, adult-like manner. As soon as you start whining she starts losing respect for you.



Series: Qualities of the Alpha Male
Lesson 3: ONE-itis is a dangerous thing...

You should all know what ONE-itis is by now. If you don't, then why have you skipped this far forward in the thread? Start at the beginning! This is a dangerous disease which has many easy-to-spot symptoms:

1. If when you describe a girl, you use any of the following phrases
- I've never met a girl like her
- She's the most beautiful girl in the world
- We talked on the phone for hours

2. When your relationships end with the girl saying LJBF (lets just be friends)
3. When a girl breaks up with you and you can't sleep or stop thinking about her (She'd only break up w/you if you were an AFC anyways)
4. When you can't stop talking about this girl and how perfect she is
5. When you don't approach other girls
6. When you're so careful about what you do and say, and agree with everything she says because you don't want to hurt/offend her
7. You deny having ONE-itis, yet have never had any "luck" with girls

You should get the point. There are way to many problems with ONE-itis. When you have ONE-itis, you break all the other rules of the game.

1. You linger around because you want to spend all your time with her.
2. She controls you and your decisions are made by her.
4. You're emotionally attached to a girl. When she breaks up with you (and she will break up with you), you will be heart-broken.
5. You don't approach other girls
6. You're not a challenge to her. She's going to get bored and move on.
7. You become overly worried about what she's doing and who she's with. You're always thinking about her, which will make you more likely to call and spend more time with her.
8. You have no Social Proof

8 is a biggie. Social proof is huge. For those of you who aren't familiar with the term, here's an example of it. You're walking around the mall with one of your good looking female friends. Other girls will see you with her, and become attracted to you. I've even asked this to several girls, and they all told me that they are always more attracted to a guy who is with other girls as opposed to a guy who is alone. They wonder what all the fuss is about. When girls see you with other girls, it adds a value to you. The more you're "worth", the less work you will have to do to get girls. One way to make your worth go up is to always be with other girls and always talk to them. The PUA is always talking to atleast 3-5 girls at any given time in his life. You want to make girls jealous, but if you have ONE-itis, it's really not possible. Instead, you become jealous of her when she even talks to a guy friend. She should be jealous of you always talking to other girls.

A perfect example of this is in the movie How to be a Player (dont' recommend it for learning how to become a PUA, but it had a few good points). Anyways, there was this fine ass girl at this party that the guy wanted to get with. He went in the room where she was sitting with a few other girls, looked at all the girls, and asked the ugliest one there to dance (right in front of her). They went out on the dance floor, and the whole time, this hot girl was watching them like a hawk. She got jealous, and didn't understand why he picked this ugly girl over her. She thinks he didn't notice her, and already sets him up to be the one in control. Later on that night they hooked up.

You have to always be talking to other girls. Who cares if they're a 5-6 on the scale, you should practice your techniques on them; just don't pick them up. Girls are so jealous, you can use anyone to make them jealous. Any girls will do the trick, but I've found that girls are extremely jealous about you talking to their close friends (so for those of you in high school listen up). If you're in high school, make an effort to talk to the girls friends (because they will always tell the girl). If the girl you're interested is with her friends, walk up to the group and talk to everyone EXCEPT her. If she tries to butt in in a rude way, say, "That was rude. We were having a conversation. Don't do that again." Then turn your back to her and continue on with the conversation. If she doesn't do anything rude, but merely jumps in cause everyone else

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