50NL Villian leads out on 3 flush board, I have TPTK

schwerd2 · #1 06-20-2006, 03:43 AM

Villian is 25/15/2

What do I do in pots like these?? I have been in this situation a few times, with tptk on 3 flush board. Am I going to far to "protect" my hand? I hate spewing chips with only a pair. Is pushing the turn retarted after the K comes?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($31.90)
BB ($34.05)
UTG ($41.60)
MP ($7.40)
Hero ($44.80)
Button ($37.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 3 folds, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero raises to $9, UTG calls $6.

Turn: ($23.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $31, UTG calls $30.10 (All-In).

River: ($84.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $84.85

ticks · #2 06-20-2006, 03:48 AM

Call flop bet.
Lead non-club turn.
Fold to a raise.

tannenj · #3 06-20-2006, 03:52 AM

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Am I going to far to "protect" my hand?

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yes, i think so.

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Is pushing the turn retarted after the K comes?

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yes, i think so.

i'm usually just calling on the flop here. if i elected to raise the flop like you did (a play i make sometimes), i'm checking behind on the turn with the intention of calling a smallish bet on the river.

Freelancer · #4 06-20-2006, 04:06 AM

*grunch*

I dont mind the flop raise, its quite likely that your ahead at this point. I would probably raise to 12 dollars instead of 9; pot sized bet;~6+3 (from villain bet) + 3 (from your call) = 12 right?

When he calls you I put him on a queen or better, flush draw, a possible small flush. So on the turn the only thing that you beat is the flush draw and queen, and you will only get called when your beat. I would check it and see a river, if villain bets a 4 card flush river I'm folding. If the river is save and villain checks again I would fire a value bet.

tannenj · #5 06-20-2006, 04:14 AM

a pot-sized raise on the flop would be to $14.75:

(3)(3) + 5.75 = 14.75

and i think if you make a raise like that on the flop, you should pretty much be shutting down after you do so. if you bet/raise again, you're on the verge of committing your whole stack with just TPTK.