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HU turn fold w/ TP
villain 25/12/1.4
Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls. Flop: (8.66 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls. Turn: (7.33 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 10.33 BB |
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Re: HU turn fold w/ TP
You bloated the pot to the point where you now have odds to see one more card.
For 1 SB more, you could have seen a showdown if you didn't retake the initiative on the flop. I don't get the flop 3-bet unless villain was regularly raising unimproved overs on the flop. I am also not sold on the flop bet, as you basically give your hand away at that point, allowing villain to play perfectly against you. I think that CO will bet overcards here a lot b/c the flop only has one card in the playing zone. |
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Re: HU turn fold w/ TP
Wrong forum.
I don't like the flop 3 bet at all. |
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Re: HU turn fold w/ TP
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You bloated the pot to the point where you now have odds to see one more card. [/ QUOTE ] I thought there was a good chance I had 3 or 0 outs. [ QUOTE ] For 1 SB more, you could have seen a showdown if you didn't retake the initiative on the flop. I don't get the flop 3-bet unless villain was regularly raising unimproved overs on the flop. I am also not sold on the flop bet, as you basically give your hand away at that point, allowing villain to play perfectly against you. I think that CO will bet overcards here a lot b/c the flop only has one card in the playing zone. [/ QUOTE ] I thought there was a decent chance he'd raise overs there and protect my hand for me. And then I thought he might take a freecard on the turn. I know its fashionable here to say no one takes freecards anymore but that is not true. Not saying my plan is great, but that was my thinking. I might have donked the turn, what about that? |
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Re: HU turn fold w/ TP
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Wrong forum. [/ QUOTE ] crap. sorry, i keep forgetting i've been playing full. [ QUOTE ] I don't like the flop 3 bet at all. [/ QUOTE ] would have called down from there? |
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Re: HU turn fold w/ TP
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[ QUOTE ] You bloated the pot to the point where you now have odds to see one more card. [/ QUOTE ] I thought there was a good chance I had 3 or 0 outs. [ QUOTE ] For 1 SB more, you could have seen a showdown if you didn't retake the initiative on the flop. I don't get the flop 3-bet unless villain was regularly raising unimproved overs on the flop. I am also not sold on the flop bet, as you basically give your hand away at that point, allowing villain to play perfectly against you. I think that CO will bet overcards here a lot b/c the flop only has one card in the playing zone. [/ QUOTE ] I thought there was a decent chance he'd raise overs there and protect my hand for me. And then I thought he might take a freecard on the turn. I know its fashionable here to say no one takes freecards anymore but that is not true. Not saying my plan is great, but that was my thinking. I might have donked the turn, what about that? [/ QUOTE ] You can worry about free cards more when your hand is a little bit stronger or perhaps you have a specific read that the opponent likes to raise overs. Here you managed to get it heads up, which is a reasonable result for you, but you're out of position and still probably an underdog and have to play defensively. |
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Re: HU turn fold w/ TP
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You can worry about free cards more when your hand is a little bit stronger or perhaps you have a specific read that the opponent likes to raise overs. Here you managed to get it heads up, which is a reasonable result for you, but you're out of position and still probably an underdog and have to play defensively. [/ QUOTE ] thanks. that makes alot of sense. |
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Re: HU turn fold w/ TP
I'm hating your flop 3 bet here...I would just call down UI.
Given your line I think you have to see a river getting over 10:1. |
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