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Old 06-15-2006, 09:05 PM
igotBlackJak igotBlackJak is offline
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Default (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

donk fest here at the 11s folks.. but what do you do?

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UTG (t2000)
UTG+1 (t1880)
MP1 (t2000)
MP2 (t2000)
MP3 (t2000)
CO+1 (t1880)
CO (t2320)
Button (t1960)
SB (t1960)
Hero (t2000)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t40, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t40, CO+1 calls t40, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t40, SB calls t20, Hero checks

Flop: (t180) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t398</font>, Hero calls t398, MP1 calls t398, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>

Turn: (t1374) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t1522</font>, <font color="gray">Hero?</font>

Thoughts at the time... "I call flop bet entirely sure i'll isolate SB and push the turn... donkey behind me calls... now two players drawing, and bad turn card. wtf rigged..."

with all the limping pre-flop.. i put SB on something like A4, or QJ. Donkey behind me probably has a club draw or hit set of 4s. what do you geniouses(sp) think? easiest play is to push flop i know, but that didn't happen for whatever damn reason. holla
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:16 PM
Bubble Bully Bubble Bully is offline
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Default Re: (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

I'm interested in reading how the "geniuses" respond to this problem. I would have to fold, because your hand was not protected, but then again some guy in an SNG today called me a pu@@#y prior to me whipping him HU's.
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:07 PM
igotBlackJak igotBlackJak is offline
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Default Re: (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

geniuses asleep? i'm still pondering this hand...
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

reraise the flop a large amount and the hand is much easier to play you absolutley cannot flat call with that many people still to act behind you and many turn cards you dont want to see. as played i would call.
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

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reraise the flop a large amount and the hand is much easier to play you absolutley cannot flat call with that many people still to act behind you and many turn cards you dont want to see. as played i would call.

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Old 06-15-2006, 11:30 PM
taipan168 taipan168 is offline
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Default Re: (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

Bottom two pair is a vulnerable hand but it's great for you that the A flopped. I agree with laser, I would raise his flop overbet to 800-1000, call a push, and hope opp doesn't have A4 or 44.
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:52 PM
igotBlackJak igotBlackJak is offline
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Default Re: (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

i understand push flop is the single best play.

whats the correct move after my mistake?
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:57 PM
taipan168 taipan168 is offline
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Default Re: (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

Call! Opp overbet the flop and the turn, he/she wants you to go away, not call.
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Old 06-16-2006, 01:13 AM
igotBlackJak igotBlackJak is offline
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Default Re: (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

at the 11s i'm not sure if villain knows how to bet... but i understand your opinion. what about donk #2 behind me?
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Old 06-16-2006, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: (11s) - Flop 2 pair... no good?

Im raising the flop, and pushing that turn.
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