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Where Am I here??
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Full Tilt Poker Game #715614485: $50 + $5 Tournament (6 max) (4602236), Table 4 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:37:14 ET - 2006/06/15 Seat 1: composer24 (4,350) Seat 2: weskey (6,035) Seat 3: TheDarkElf (1,430) Seat 4: cscwildcat1 (1,240) Seat 5: Zuludogg (1,300) Seat 6: LLKOOLK1 (1,750) Zuludogg posts the small blind of 30 LLKOOLK1 posts the big blind of 60 The button is in seat #4 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to LLKOOLK1 [Qs Kh] composer24 folds weskey raises to 210 TheDarkElf folds cscwildcat1 folds Zuludogg folds LLKOOLK1 calls 150 *** FLOP *** [Kc Tc 6h] LLKOOLK1 checks weskey checks *** TURN *** [Kc Tc 6h] [Qh] LLKOOLK1 bets 250 weskey raises to 5,825, and is all in I planned on CR the flop (villan had CB most of his pf raises)But he checks behind me. I dont have any real reads on Villan, since he moved in 3 or 4 orbits ago... Where do you think I am here, what hands does he push this turn with? What am I ahead of? Whats beating me? Any thoughts on CR the flop/leading out into raiser? -LL |
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Re: Where Am I here??
I think you have 2 pr and if you are beat you have 4 redraws. (2 if he has QQ). I instacall because what hands would he push that beat us? AJ MIGHT only because there are 2 flushes out there, but the huge overbet seems ridonkulous. My guess is some kind of weak hand + draws (TJh / QJc). Anyone see this move made w/ better hands than draws / lower 2 pr?
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Re: Where Am I here??
I would fold this PF, unless I had a read that the villian was extremely loose. After calling, I would bet the flop (not check raise). I would call the allin. I think you are ahead of a draw or 1 pair and a draw. It is possible that someone would push with a straight or set, because they are scared of the flush draw, but that case is less likely.
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Re: Where Am I here??
You are slightly behind a hand lik Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and way ahead of most others.
I really doubt he pushes AJ there, but may due to 2 frush draws. I usually call quickly. I also usually re-raise this PF in 6 max against a LAG, is he a LAG? (I've been playing 1/2 6max) He has a lot of chips, how did he get em? If he has a lot early, its usually due to good lag/bad lag playing so you are well ahead of his range as he knows you need a good hand to call a push. But you have a good hand, so call. Regards, Woodguy |
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Re: Where Am I here??
Oh man, with your stack size I definitely call. I think at worst you're splitting, unless he got lucky enough to catch with his AJ.
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Re: Where Am I here??
It is likely that he is a wild player who is on the wild side when it comes to pushing draws, but you cannot discount the fact that he might be a decent player who has dramatically increased his stack by overplaying his monster hands and having folks calling him.
Let's say you are a 2 - 1 favorite against the draws and he is a 19 - 1 favorite if he has the hand he represents (a set). You see the problem emerging: you must be really-really sure that he is a clown who is overplaying his hands. At the $50 + $5 level, there are plenty of bad players, but I would still fold in a heartbeat, if only for not experiencing the aggravation of making an apparent beginner mistake. |
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What confuses me is what hand is he checking behind on this flop with, but pushing the turn with?
-LL |
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At the $50 + $5 level, there are plenty of bad players, but I would still fold in a heartbeat, if only for not experiencing the aggravation of making an apparent beginner mistake. [/ QUOTE ] Hmm I dunno bout that....and I dont think this is a clear fold at all -LL |
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Re: Where Am I here??
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I would fold this PF, unless I had a read that the villian was extremely loose. After calling, I would bet the flop (not check raise). I would call the allin. I think you are ahead of a draw or 1 pair and a draw. It is possible that someone would push with a straight or set, because they are scared of the flush draw, but that case is less likely. [/ QUOTE ] This is a 6max table, and we are light a player, so 5 players. Blinds 30/60...I dont mind calling here. -LL |
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Re: Where Am I here??
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What confuses me is what hand is he checking behind on this flop with, but pushing the turn with? [/ QUOTE ] Club draw with Q clubs? Good point, makes me not like the instacall as much, but I still usually call here, especiallly with the all in, but after looking at it again you only have a psb left in your stack. Hmmm, that makes it closer, but I'm dumb and still call. Regards, Woodguy |
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