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Old 06-15-2006, 06:29 PM
stoxtrader stoxtrader is offline
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Default Re: Two stoxtrader hands

seperate to the consideratino for peeling is how many outs you have and how good you are. I dont reembmer the exact hands or my reads, but do i have more good outs on avg in the A3 hand making a peel there better relative to that variable?
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: Two stoxtrader hands

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seperate to the consideratino for peeling is how many outs you have and how good you are. I dont reembmer the exact hands or my reads, but do i have more good outs on avg in the A3 hand making a peel there better relative to that variable?

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I'm not following? I think my answer is 'no'?

Both hands you have an ace, a backdoor flush draw, and there are two overcards to your kicker. Both boards seem equally drawy. Both are headsup CO steal situations.

I guess with A3 you have a backdoor wheel draw.
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:51 PM
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I guess with A3 you have a backdoor wheel draw.

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And of course, better pot odds, because we're responding to a CR not a donk.

I've always wondered about this actually. Logically, it should be the case that a donk would have more fold equity than a CR, because of this pot odds it presents. I've never seen this to be the case though. It seems like people just autoraise my donks whether they are ahead or not, putting me in an uncomfortable spot when I have either an unmade hand or a weak made one.

And my feelign is that those rare occasions they actually straight-out fold are definately no more frequent than the times they would have folded to my CR, although I have no data mining to back up this claim.
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