KQs, do I continue? (discounting outs with no reads)

[bennyhana]

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not betting this turn is.... whatever the opposite of spew is. its like someone else spewed on the road and you have scooped it up, put it in a stew and then ate it with a glass of red.

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OK OK. You're right. But when check raised, what am I looking for/what is my action on the river?

[ZingyDNA]

I'd check the turn. SB could be trapping. It sucks to get c/red on the turn but I think you have to call unless you know SB is a rock.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

im not entirely sure whats +ev. i definitely call ui for sanity.

if the flush hits your decision is probably a bit harder, i think you can raise, but dont cap.

[no1spec]

If we miss the river and are bet into we are getting 10:1 at that point. Is this a call in case villin is getting over agressive with a weaker queen?

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

if we fold the river and spend the next 100 hands wondering if we were right when we watch the same vil pull stupid play after stupid play is the call +ev?

[AlmightyJay]

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im not entirely sure whats +ev. i definitely call ui for sanity.

if the flush hits your decision is probably a bit harder, i think you can raise, but dont cap.

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Agreed. A river 3-bet is bad news when we hit the flush. Call it, and if he shows down just the naked trips, make a note on that.

[no1spec]

I think normally I would fold, but hero as played/raised 3 of 4 hands since starting this table so maybe someone was taking a shot that he had nothing. Though really I would have expected them to do it on the flop where it would cost less, but who knows. I think I would still fold the river unimproved but be watching future hands to get a better read.

[AlmightyJay]

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I think normally I would fold, but hero as played/raised 3 of 4 hands since starting this table so maybe someone was taking a shot that he had nothing. Though really I would have expected them to do it on the flop where it would cost less, but who knows. I think I would still fold the river unimproved but be watching future hands to get a better read.

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Why are people advocating folding a flush draw on a paired board for one bet getting 8:1?

[no1spec]

I am talking about the river, unimproved.

[tyler_cracker]

This thread didn't make any sense to me until i read this:

New England at Denver 8:00 CBS

Beni, are you so terrified of what the Patriots are gonna do to your Broncos that you're seeing monsters under your poker bed too?

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