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#22
06-10-2006, 01:40 PM
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Re: $22s - KK with raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise PREFLOP
call allin and dont be so sure you will triple your stack cmon! You think you are that big a favorite against AK and QQ!
Whats funny is the last hand I saw my sister play, I told her she should have folded KK preflop. Of course I know there is some silly unwritten rule on 2+2 that you must always put all your chips in with KK, but I think I've folded it PF now upwards of 5 times. 
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#23
06-10-2006, 03:06 PM
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Re: $22s - KK with raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise PREFLOP
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Of course I know there is some silly unwritten rule on 2+2 that you must always put all your chips in with KK, but I think I've folded it PF now upwards of 5 times. [/ QUOTE ] I think that the idea is that 5 / (Number of hand you've played) = 0 is a reasonable approximation.
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#24
06-10-2006, 03:08 PM
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Re: $22s - KK with raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise PREFLOP
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Of course I know there is some silly unwritten rule on 2+2 that you must always put all your chips in with KK, but I think I've folded it PF now upwards of 5 times. [/ QUOTE ] I think that the idea is that 5 / (Number of hand you've played) = 0 is a reasonable approximation. [/ QUOTE ] What do you mean?
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#25
06-10-2006, 03:12 PM
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Re: $22s - KK with raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise PREFLOP
Sorry - I mean that if you play a lot of poker and never fold KK prefop then that would be a very, very small error. So just never folding it is an acceptable "rule". This is based on the assumption that someone like you (a high volume player and a good player) was only able to identify 5 KK folding preflop situations ever. Since 5 / (Number of Hands Played) is so very small, then the losses associated with never folding KK as per the conventional wisdom are small.
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#26
06-10-2006, 03:12 PM
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Re: $22s - KK with raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise PREFLOP
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Of course I know there is some silly unwritten rule on 2+2 that you must always put all your chips in with KK, but I think I've folded it PF now upwards of 5 times. [/ QUOTE ] I think that the idea is that 5 / (Number of hand you've played) = 0 is a reasonable approximation. [/ QUOTE ] What do you mean? [/ QUOTE ] He's saying that the amount of times you've folded kings preflop divided by the amount of times you've had kings, is approximately 0.
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#27
06-10-2006, 03:13 PM
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Re: $22s - KK with raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise PREFLOP
ahh makes sense...yea and most of the time the posts I see on here aren't those times where you should fold it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#28
06-10-2006, 03:19 PM
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Re: $22s - KK with raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise PREFLOP
Ive played around 3000 22 speeds in my online career, and never once folded KK PF. I have at higher levels but they're are very few scenarios that would dictate it to be a +ev fold at 109+, and prob zero at 33 or less. If the player is an unknown it should not even be an option at any buy in.
No point in trying to outhink this.
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#29
06-10-2006, 03:39 PM
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Re: $22s - KK with raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise PREFLOP
I'd call, but I'm never sure I'll triple my stack until I actually see those chips coming my way. Even then I'm afraid of a protest.
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#30
06-10-2006, 06:11 PM
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Re: $22s - KK with raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise PREFLOP
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Prob zero at 33 or less. If the player is an unknown it should not even be an option at any buy in. [/ QUOTE ] This is a very nitty post, but CO (1) Button (1) Vilian (10000) Hero (9998) Villian shoves, Hero should fold KK regardless of the buyin.
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