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Old 06-09-2006, 06:36 PM
Delphin Delphin is offline
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Default BB flops middle pair no kicker, peel?

MP is 43/11/2
CO is 76/8/0.4 Calling station (58% wtsd)

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, CO calls, SB folds, Hero ?

Can I peel here? MP always bets when checked to and CO calls down with just about anything.
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:38 PM
philnewall philnewall is offline
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Default Re: BB flops middle pair no kicker, peel?

No. reverse implied odds.
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: BB flops middle pair no kicker, peel?

You have bottom pair and no draw. This is textbook reverse implied odds. With a bet and a call you are done with this hand IMO. Even if someone has something like KT you are a dog and the fact that there was a bet and a call makes this an easy fold.
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: BB flops middle pair no kicker, peel?

Usually this is an easy fold for me, but with the reads I gave I was questioning it. It didn't help that the turn &amp; river were 7,Q and sir LAGalot took it down without showdown.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 06-09-2006, 08:19 PM
raytownloc raytownloc is offline
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Default Re: BB flops middle pair no kicker, peel?

i (in theory) peel here. one of my biggest leaks is playing crap cards from the BB. Plus the pot is small and do you want to battle straight draws, flush draws, and overcards, just because you think there is a chance that you have the best hand right now?

BTW very curious to see what others have said after I post this.
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Old 06-09-2006, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: BB flops middle pair no kicker, peel?

Super easy fold for me. Reverse implied odds + Cutoff already called
middle positions bet.
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:19 PM
Caddy_4_Life Caddy_4_Life is offline
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Default Re: BB flops middle pair no kicker, peel?

good fold. Don't sweat the results.

-Caddy
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