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Old 06-08-2006, 09:42 PM
DMACM DMACM is offline
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Default Mathematical odds of winning an mtt with a given ROI?

My question is how from a theoretical perspective does ROI interact with odds of winning an mtt and further how does the size of the field interact with these numbers.

I understand that this is probably a difficult question from a theory stand point but is there a generally accepted shorthand way of determining your odds of winning a tournament assuming a given ROI?

I ask this because I generally like to take the size of the field/2 as my odds of winning a tournament but I have been realizing lately that this is probably incorrect.

To complicate things further I would assume that in a larger field an average player has a magnified chance of winning as compared to a poor player. If this is the case would a fantastic player have a magnified chance of winning compared to an above average player?

This is of particular relevance to the large sunday events and the WSOP. Both of these have a lot of above average players probalby play and to whom winning such an event would represent a drastic change in the overall profitability of their poker careers, many who perhaps play them only occasionally and outside of their bankroll. Both of these also attract the best of the online pros and live pros.
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Old 06-08-2006, 10:01 PM
John Shiznit John Shiznit is offline
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Default Re: Mathematical odds of winning an mtt with a given ROI?

i would contend that the stars 150 has a better field than the sunday 200.
and the wsop 5000 event will have a better field than the main event.
most due to the numbers of satellites to both evnts.
with the field sizes so big and the number of players so large there probably really is no reliable estimate of the EV you could acheive in these events.
But alot of pros who were considered very good before their victories have acheived a win. so who knows. [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 06-08-2006, 11:08 PM
BennyMac BennyMac is offline
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Default Re: Mathematical odds of winning an mtt with a given ROI?

I don't know if there's an accepted formula. But this would be my first stab:

Probability of Winning = (ROI/100 + 1)/(Size of Field)
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