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Old 06-07-2006, 02:30 PM
Atropos Atropos is offline
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Default Two KK Hands

Hand 1:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($61.05)
BB ($45)
Hero ($243.95)
MP ($133.80)
CO ($332.55)
Button ($211.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, CO calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $7, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($40) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20, MP calls $20, CO folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB goes allin for $17 (All-In), <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $65</font>, MP folds.

River: ($182) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $182

--&gt; I do not have a real read on any of these players since I'm 8tabling. However both have loose preflop numbers and do not seem particularly good. They are both calling down too much with marginal holdings (or complete crap).

Hand 2:

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UTG ($112.15)
MP ($120.65)
CO ($300)
Button ($81.05)
Hero ($200)
BB ($169.41)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $8</font>, BB calls $7.

Flop: ($18) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12.

Turn: ($42) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $150</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: $222

The BB was definately quite a loose-bad player. At the turn I was not sure if he had the flush so I decided to go for the check-raise, to prevent being out of position on the river if my draw does not hit... Additionally there is the chance he would like to stack of with top pair, but would be scared if another flush card falls on the river.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:36 PM
Fallen Hero Fallen Hero is offline
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Default Re: Two KK Hands

hand 1: raise the flop

hand 2: call the turn, you're setting yourself up to lose a big pot when you don't need to. If you want him to stack off with one pair he can do that on the river. If he's bluffing, give him another chance to bluff.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Two KK Hands

Hand 1 seems standard. Reraise the flop though and get him all in.

Hand 2 is bad. Bet a little more on the flop, 15ish. On the turn you can't decide if he has a flush so you c/r ai? Even with a bad player I don't like that. Raising for info sucks, and raising ai here just to insure no river action is worse. I would rather just c/c turn and river. The scariest card that could come on the river is a heart, and that would give us second nuts. Pot control is big here imo.
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