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Old 06-05-2006, 08:49 PM
Absolution Absolution is offline
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Default Easy call?

What do you estimate my outs as?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB folds, Hero...
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:51 PM
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fold
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:55 PM
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fold every day of the week and twice on tuesday. i'd give myself about 3 outs here and there is even the possibility that you are drawing dead to a deuce from CO, although not likely. Getting 7.5-1 I'm gone.
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:55 PM
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Im folding this about 99% of the time.
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:59 PM
Rimbaud Rimbaud is offline
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Default Re: Easy call?

Grunch

I don't raise this PF UTG, should I be? And I hate open limping UTG.

Valueing overcard out at 1.5. You don't have odds to call the flop. Even ace high has you beat. Let it go.

Turn would also be a fold for me. Even if all your overcard outs are good you fall just short of having the odds to call.
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:01 PM
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I don't raise this PF UTG, should I be? And I hate open limping UTG.

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It's a matter of skill and comfort.
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:02 PM
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I don't raise this PF UTG, should I be?

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yes you should
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:23 PM
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I like the raise UTG. Personally I am raising or folding this UTG.

Easy fold on the turn. If I had to guesstimate without thinking too much you probably have 6 clean outs here.
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:31 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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I like the raise UTG. Personally I am raising or folding this UTG.

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Do anything but fold. What's wrong with KQo UTG?
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Old 06-05-2006, 09:56 PM
Romulus141 Romulus141 is offline
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*Grunch*

I fold flop actually. SB bets out of nowhere after you raise, and you don't even have an ace-high. With partial outs, you have 3 outs at best, which still doesn't justify the flop call. Flop that flop, and if you call to the turn, fold that turn, your odds are even worse here.
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