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Old 06-02-2006, 09:14 PM
Ugge Ugge is offline
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Default KJ, is my top pair beaten?

Villian is 44/16/2

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.10
UTG+1: $3.70
MP1: $2.83
MP2: $4.83
CO: $6.08
Button: $3.82
SB: $2.04
Hero: $3.58

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.1</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.42, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.6</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.62, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.65</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2.92, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.85</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.85 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $2.92

I know that the turn is probably really bad, but what do i do on the flop? Define my hand with a raise? Fold? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Any other thoughts?
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:18 PM
antidan444 antidan444 is offline
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Default Re: KJ, is my top pair beaten?

If you're going to fold the river, fold the turn. (And vice-versa ... since you called the turn, I think you have to call the river. I would have folded the turn.) I don't mind how you played the flop here.
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:20 PM
black_drake black_drake is offline
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Default Re: KJ, is my top pair beaten?

Yeah...if you called the turn, you're not giving him credit for an Ace, so why scared of the 3 on the river. Call it or fold at Turn.
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: KJ, is my top pair beaten?

Okay, would you bet the turn if a non-scare card comes and then fold if he raises or just always check the turn?
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: KJ, is my top pair beaten?

On a turn blank, I think you could do either and be OK.
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Old 06-02-2006, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: KJ, is my top pair beaten?

I like betting the turn, and if you get raised, just muck it. As played, i call river, or fold turn
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Old 06-02-2006, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: KJ, is my top pair beaten?

jde, if you bet turn and he flat calls what is your line oop? are you c/f? This villian has a vpip of 44 and he threw two min raises at you.
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Old 06-02-2006, 10:36 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: KJ, is my top pair beaten?

Oye, full ring. Sorry just noticed. I'd just check/call the flop, and evaluate from there. There's like 5-6 people in the hand, someone will bet it, and your hand isn't that strong...

buy in for full...
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Old 06-02-2006, 10:41 PM
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jde, if you bet turn and he flat calls what is your line oop? are you c/f? This villian has a vpip of 44 and he threw two min raises at you.

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if villan calls or raises, i'm shutting down
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