Telling others to tip? Cliff notes & 2 Polls

[kiwi]

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But I also played with a lot of Europeans and Australians who just continually forgot.




One particularly hammered Australian who never knew how much to bet (in a 4/8 limit game) specifically wanted me to help him remember if I saw that he had forgotten.


You need to use your judgement here.
If someone is just being stingy then that's up to them and you should stay out of it. But if you have a rapport with a guy who mentions it's his first time playing live or first time in LV or in the U.S. then one polite reminder isn't such a bad idea.


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Tipping in NZ, and Australia, is pretty much a no-no, with the exception of restaurants. It is not allowed in casinos here and the few Aussie B&M's I have visited. Hotels, cabs, bars etc - just not done. So that, plus the holiday beers, means we need a Bob or two around
It's interesting (and widely appreciated by the recipient of course) that many US tousists visiting here insist on ignoring this, and applying their own customs over here - which is fine, but sometimes not really appropriate. When you point this out, even to friends or colleagues, you have to be very careful.

I guess my point is a little tolerance goes a long way, and the tipping thing can be a minefield both ways. And before you book your ticket for toke-free gambling, you still have to deal with the "RAKE-RAPE" in this part of the world

[Quadstriker]

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Usually I'll say, "if you aren't going to tip him, I will" and throw the dealer a buck.

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I only do that when the old nitty jerkbag who hasn't tipped all year wins a pot, not for the new b+m type.

[MicroBob]

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It's interesting (and widely appreciated by the recipient of course) that many US tousists visiting here insist on ignoring this

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Many Americans simply get lost in their own customs...particularly if they haven't travelled internationally a whole lot. If they haven't then it could be almost unfathomable for some that insisting on tipping (such as what my Mom would probably do) would be over-the-top and inappropriate.

However, I do know that it goes both ways and that many non-Americans get it quite wrong when they come over here like forgetting or not knowing to tip in restaurants for example. Some might think it's okay to not leave a tip at some sort of diner or waffle-house type place just as you wouldn't tip at a McDonald's.


My struggles with travelling internationally would involve trying to get it right regarding the customs of a given region.


Another think I struggle with (for example) is haggling for price at a market over some knick-knacky item.
It just feels rude and pushy to me to see a t-shirt for $10 and try to haggle it down to $5 or something even though something like this is generally expected and acceptable much of the time.


I had a semi-similar situation to the 'first-time B&M'er tipping' thing just a couple days ago when a guy who I suspected of being pretty new didn't really understand how chopping the blinds worked.
I didn't really care one way or another. I would be happy to play him heads-up.
But he seemed interested and I felt it was okay to explain to him how it worked for the future so that he wouldn't tick off other players.
I've run into quite a few new players who didn't understand that you aren't supposed to look at your cards first and then decide, "I have AA on this one...so I don't want to chop" or something like that...and that there are very real bounds of etiquette that they probably would want to stay within.

[Jeffage]

Lame on so many levels.

Jeff

[Bulldog]

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Lame on so many levels.

Jeff

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I wouldn't actually do it; I was just salty when I wrote this.

[moris]

Nothing wrong with informing them of the tipping custom in a non-rude manner. Sounds like the dealers were mechanics in your corner after your tip. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]