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Old 05-31-2006, 07:44 PM
Xenod Xenod is offline
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Default KK on unusual flop

I think I should've raised more preflop first of all. On the flop, I figured a push would get an Ace without a decent heart to fold, and if I do get called I can catch a heart for the nuts. MP1 was running 38/2 after 40 hands. Thoughts?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $48.49
UTG+1: $90.15
MP1: $138.96
MP2: $186.56
MP3: $47.07
CO: $90.35
Button: $98.25
SB: $46.85
Hero: $113.85

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $4</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $9</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($27.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $18</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to $36</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $85.85</font>
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: KK on unusual flop

c/r ai would be a better line than the one you chose to maximize FE. Why you'd want to put your stack in the middle as a dog like this, idk.
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: KK on unusual flop

you really need to raise more pf and fyi villain most likely has a set or a flush, not Ax.
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:52 PM
DONTUSETHIS DONTUSETHIS is offline
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Default Re: KK on unusual flop

I would raise a little more preflop. A check raise gives you the best chance for a fold. villain may have a flush since he does not raise too much. I dont think the price is right for you to make the third raise. Your gonna get called and are behind.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: KK on unusual flop

Looks like he either has a big ace, or QQ/JJ, with one of them of hearts

I'd make the same play
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: KK on unusual flop

villain limped pf, I'd bet 1/2 my roll he doesn't have qq/jj (and I'd almost do the same for AK/AQ).
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: KK on unusual flop

Yup, he clearly has 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and you are drawing dead. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: KK on unusual flop

Yeah, he doesn't have QQ/JJ here very often. 10% air factor would include those hands. He's got Ax, set, flush here 90% of the time. Which makes Hero at the minimum a 60/40 dog.
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Old 05-31-2006, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: KK on unusual flop

Thanks for all the replies. I'm so used to leading the flop, but I see that checking was my best action here.

For this specific hand he wasn't going to fold. He did have a set, AA. Turn bricked and river gave him a boat for good measure.
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