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JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com
saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> <font color="#C00000">Hero ($54.35)</font> UTG ($104.80) UTG+1 ($14.50) MP1 ($50.10) <font color="#C00000">MP2 ($5.25)</font> MP3 ($50) CO ($54.65) Button ($20.45) SB ($46.65) Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.50, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $5.25</font>, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25. Flop: ($16.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font> Like, hate pre flop? flop? |
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Re: JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
I would rr to $15 pf, but I have trouble w/ these hands.
I'd hope MP3 folds and I get an AI w/ MP2. If MP3 calls and the flop is the same.... hmmm... I guess I push... don't listen to me IMHO... |
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Re: JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
cant re-raise pre flop
edit- oh sorry you mean before the shortstack calls? |
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Re: JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
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cant re-raise pre flop [/ QUOTE ] Oh. Yeah I never know when you can / can't. Why can't you rr? I guess then it looks good. |
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Re: JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
you can't come over the top of MP2 going AI, but you can reraise after MP3 the first time around, no?
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Re: JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
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cant re-raise pre flop edit- oh sorry you mean before the shortstack calls? [/ QUOTE ] This is what I mean: 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $5</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font> |
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Re: JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
Yeah, sorry, wasn't thinking about that time.
I didn't want to do that because I thought it was optimal to now play for set value or undercards against MP3.. me calling would effectively end the betting I think. I didnt want to get into a raising war with JJ against a 100bb stack pre flop re-raiser (although maybe his range is a bit wider because he's re raising a short stack) |
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Re: JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
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(although maybe his range is a bit wider because he's re raising a short stack) [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
but why would you re-raise a hsort stack? you're trying to get it all in before you see any cards, right, so he could hold a bunch of lower pocket pairs as well?
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Re: JJ pre flop, OOP, complicated stacks
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but why would you re-raise a hsort stack? you're trying to get it all in before you see any cards, right, so he could hold a bunch of lower pocket pairs as well? [/ QUOTE ] I think your goal here is folding the bigger stack, so you can be AI vs. a worse hand from shorty and bigger stack's dead money. Also, I think bigger stack's pfrr is light here, so you're hopefully ahead of his range, although it's easy to get yourself in hot water here.... |
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