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Last time I checked this stat was in the 90s, but it is highly telling: 90% of men who commit a violent crime before the age of 25 never do so again. One reason, probably the primary reason, is biological: males 'calm down' considerably as they age due to biological factors, and it really starts to set in right before 25 for most men. Quote:
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The bold is why I advocate torture. For someone deserving of the death penalty (child molesters, rapists, cop killers, terrorists), torture is a better deterrent than life or death. Given the choice of those two, I think death is slightly more feared than life in prison. I guess html is disabled..attempted to bold: : ". . .it is not prudent to accept the hypothesis that capital punishment deters murder to a marginally greater extent than does the threat and application of the supposedly lesser punishment of life imprisonment." |
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The best predictor of future violence is past violence. How many chances of murder should someone get? We are not talking about the 1 or 2 barroom fights in age 21-25 when talking about violence and prison sir. |
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first ask yourself what's your opinion about human rights in these countries:
- China - Congo (Democratic Republic) - Iran - Nigeria - Pakistan - Saudi Arabia - Yemen then go two lines upwards. |
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To those against the death penalty- How much a year per person does it cost for a person to be in jail? Do you realize that the most vicious people are at the top of the social ladder in jail, thereby refuting the idea that life in prison is worse then the death penalty? How can you both claim 1) life in prison is worse then death 2) you don't support the death penalty because it could lead to the death of innocent people these two statements completely contradict each other to me. Maybe it's too late. Borodog- Can you explain your point a little more? [/ QUOTE ] I agree. But some of us who are opposed to the death penalty are also, in general, opposed to prisons. |
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To those against the death penalty- How much a year per person does it cost for a person to be in jail? Do you realize that the most vicious people are at the top of the social ladder in jail, thereby refuting the idea that life in prison is worse then the death penalty? How can you both claim 1) life in prison is worse then death 2) you don't support the death penalty because it could lead to the death of innocent people these two statements completely contradict each other to me. Maybe it's too late. Borodog- Can you explain your point a little more? [/ QUOTE ] This is a good question. Basically it comes down to the fact that when a person is still alive, a mistaken conviction can be overturned. |
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I am against CP.
My reasoning may seem too simple-minded to those with different world views. I think these contradictory world views may be irreconcilable. Well, here goes: 1. Killing the perpetrator doesn't mend the damage done. So, it doesn't help solve anything that's already happended. 2. Killing the perpetrator doesn't add any appreciable safety margin to free citizens compared to life in maximum security prison. So, it doesn't really protect the public. 3. Thus, the only real reasons to kill would be revenge, cost savings, or to protect other inmates and guards. 4. Revenge is no good reason to kill, so I'll dismiss that as feeding a terrible human quality. 5. Killing may save societal costs. However, maybe a smarter prison system would be more effective in utilizing the prison workforce in a more self-sustaining way. For example, requiring inmates to work at some labor in order to receive additional benefits could have great benefits--productive work that defrays costs and a more stable, contented prison poulation. Unfortunately, many with the desire to punish will not like this option because they don't want inmates to lead a productive (even if confined) life--they went perpetual suffering or death even if no benefit to the rest of society. 6. Killing to protect other inmates or guards seems unnecessary considering more practical means of controlling prison populations. The slight risk of killing an innocent person seems to outweigh the slight risk of another inmate or prison guard. Thus, given this train of thought, I can only come up to the conclusion that I am against CP. |
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FWIW, I think killing for revenge is for more "moral" than killing to save a buck.
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