($11) Would pushing these 2 hands from the button be +EV

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There hadn't been any loose calls made at the table recently, however i had just been pushing the last 3 hands due to a series of good cards and woosed out on pushing in these two spots. I know pushing from SB is definitely +Ev with these but what would be the lowest i would want to be doing this with from the button approx? Is it T8s?

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t2550)
Hero (t1670)
SB (t1335)
BB (t2445)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t1335</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t3100)
Hero (t1220)
SB (t1535)
BB (t2145)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t1535</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

[splashpot]

If you can put the blinds on an accurate calling range, you can figure this out yourself if you learn how to use ICM. It's a good concept to know anyways for SNGs so I advise you learn it. I think there is a link in the FAQ.

[SammyKid11]

Hand 1: No, I would not advise pushing this from the button...you'd be up against the two big stacks, both of which I suspect will have a fairly liberal calling range against you.

Hand 2: Nope. T2s is just not enough here. Yeah, T8s would do it.

[junkmail3]

Hm, tough spots. But if I had to look at it genearlly, without reads (and you should have reads by this point), I would:

Fold T5 (8xBB you don't NEED to be pushing this hand)
Push T2s (4xBB this hand is gold!!!)

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If you can put the blinds on an accurate calling range, you can figure this out yourself if you learn how to use ICM. It's a good concept to know anyways for SNGs so I advise you learn it. I think there is a link in the FAQ.

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I'll be buying SNGPT so that i don't need to learn it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] or so that i can learn by osmosis [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If you can put the blinds on an accurate calling range, you can figure this out yourself if you learn how to use ICM. It's a good concept to know anyways for SNGs so I advise you learn it. I think there is a link in the FAQ.

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I'll be buying SNGPT so that i don't need to learn it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] or so that i can learn by osmosis [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I recommend learning it anyways. At least so you know why SNGPT says what it says.

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Oh, i know how it works... i just don't have any tools to work out % chance of my hand winning vs top x% of hands...

[Barrett's Last Privateer]

I'd say fold both of these.

BB only needs to be calling with any pair, any ace or KT+ to make folding a reasonable play in the second hand, which I think is a reasonable range in the 11s.