3 Hands from tonight's session

WalkAmongUs · #1 05-24-2006, 11:42 PM

Hand 1: Villain is typical TAG at like 17/11/2. Is this flop call too marginal? Is there a fold anywhere after I hit on the turn?

Party Poker ($5/$10 limit). Hand converted by Check Raised hand converter

Preflop (9 players): Hero is BB with

1 fold.
UTG+1 2 bets.
4 folds.
BTN calls [2.7:1].
1 fold.
HERO calls [6.4:1].

Flop (6.4 small bets ($32) in pot, 3 players):

HERO checks.
UTG+1 bets.
BTN calls [8.4:1].
HERO calls [9.4:1].

Turn (4.7 bets ($47) in pot, 3 players):

HERO checks.
UTG+1 bets.
BTN folds [5.7:1].
HERO 2 bets.
UTG+1 3 bets.
HERO calls [10.7:1].

River (10.7 bets ($107) in pot, 2 players):

HERO checks.
UTG+1 bets.
HERO calls [12.7:1].

Hand 2: Villain has basically same stats as in Hand 1.

Party Poker ($5/$10 limit). Hand converted by Check Raised hand converter

Preflop (9 players): Hero is CO with

4 folds.
MP3 2 bets.
HERO 3 bets.
1 fold.
SB caps.
1 fold.
MP3 calls [6:1].
HERO calls [13:1].

Flop (13 small bets ($65) in pot, 3 players):

SB bets.
MP3 calls [15:1].
HERO 2 bets.
SB 3 bets.
MP3 folds [9.5:1].
HERO caps.
SB calls [22:1].

Turn (11 bets ($110) in pot, 2 players):

SB checks.
HERO bets.
SB 2 bets.

HERO calls [15:1].

River (15 bets ($150) in pot, 2 players):

SB bets.
HERO calls [17:1].

Hand 3: Yet again vs. typical TAG. Was my turn call too thin or did I have just enough to peel?

Party Poker ($5/$10 limit). Hand converted by Check Raised hand converter

Preflop (10 players): Hero is UTG+1 with

UTG calls [2.4:1].
HERO calls [3.4:1].
1 fold.
MP2 2 bets.
1 fold.
LP calls [3.7:1].
4 folds.
UTG calls [8.4:1].
HERO calls [9.4:1].

Flop (9.4 small bets ($47) in pot, 4 players):

UTG checks.
HERO checks.
MP2 bets.
LP folds [10.4:1].
UTG calls [11.4:1].
HERO calls [12.4:1].

Turn (6.2 bets ($62) in pot, 3 players):

UTG checks.
HERO checks.
MP2 bets.
UTG folds [7.2:1].
HERO calls [8.2:1].

River (8.2 bets ($82) in pot, 2 players):

HERO checks.
MP2 bets.
HERO folds [9.2:1].

crablegs33 · #2 05-25-2006, 02:55 AM

hand 1: the flop call is iffy... if you do hit the k on the turn and you are ahead, villain will slowdown if he doesn't himself have the Q... and if he does have the Q when that king comes he's filled up a reasonable amount of the time... i think i call here myself, but looking at it objectively i think this could be a fold...

on the turn i lead out here, it allows me to see exactly how much villain likes his hand while it doesn't expose me to a 3-bet... as played i don't see a fold possible (i don't see a fold possible period)

hand 2: i absolutely hate when i get check raised on that turn... i'd play exactly the same way, but i'd be interested to see if some people recommend a fold on that turn check-raise, I myself just enter call down mode on the turn and pray for JJ in this large of a pot...

hand 3: being somewhere around six outs give or take, I peel one off

poboys · #3 05-25-2006, 03:04 PM

Hand 1: You are getting 5:1 pre-flop, so I think the call is ok. I'd fold the flop--that draw sucks.

Hand 2: I'd play it the same way.

Hand 3: Fold pre-flop. On the flop, you are getting 12.5:1--I think you only have about 4 outs--so I guess a call is warranted. But yuck. Turn, fold.

tsrcess · #4 05-25-2006, 03:40 PM

i'm only going to comment on hand one as my brain is not big enough to think about three hands at once (or, i'm too lazy to do so). one very important rule of thumb in poker at smaller limits with lesser players is to exploit big advantages and generally eschew marginal situations. why? well, i think the answer is obvious to the money driven player. MAYBE some weak argument can be developed for calling the flop (come to think of it-it has to be a VERY crappy argument), but, why on earth would you want to? even if the prayed for miracle king doesn't make a boat, the board is very boaty and one could easily form on the river...throw the cards away...even at one table online, you can play over 50 hands an hour...pick your spots that will make you money...