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Old 05-17-2006, 12:24 PM
five4suited five4suited is offline
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Default does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

From what it says on Eurobet's website, raked hands are defined only as hands in which you put money into the pot. In other words, you can't estimate the total using PT because you aren't considered to have paid an equal "table-share" of the rake for each hand you play (total rake/avg players per hand). Does anyone know for sure whether this is true?

Thanks for your help.
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Old 05-17-2006, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

Eurobet uses the contributed method to figure MGR, it is not the same method used when they were a Party skin.
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Old 05-17-2006, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

Eurobet uses the contributed weighted method.
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Old 05-17-2006, 05:50 PM
RakebackStore RakebackStore is offline
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Default Re: does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

It is contributed, but not weighted.

"As long as a player contributes to the pot he will gain an equal share
of the rake."

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Old 05-17-2006, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

i have asked several ongame support sites how they contributed rake, and gotten conflicting information...however poker room calculates rake is almost certainly the way eurobet calculates rake.

shortly after the move from party to ongame, i spoke with my eurobet affiliate manager on the phone and she was totally aware of the difference between dealt cards and weighted rake and knew that rake was done by contributed to the pot share at ongame, and didn't like the results for their site.

if you want to find out for sure, go to one of the sites that allows rake back and calculate the rake back for a player who either has hand histories or is willing to do the calculations both ways...i suggest you not play a lot for a month and check it out, because the information you get from the site will not be dependable.
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

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link sent in email there is a major issue with how affiliate payments are calculated..is it decided by the equal share of the rake for all hands an affiliated player is dealt cards...OR...an equal share of the rake for every hand the player puts money in the pot...OR an amount determined by the percentage of money the player puts in the pot?

this is NOT a trivial question and has been incorrectly answered by several of your skins...it HAS to be incorrect, because all three different situations have been answered when different affiliates have asked.

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i have sent this email to support and will post the reply when i get it.
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Old 05-20-2006, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

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It is contributed, but not weighted.

"As long as a player contributes to the pot he will gain an equal share
of the rake."

Regards,
Affiliate Support

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Just curious as to where you got that from? According to my calculations, it IS weighted. Unless my affiliate is pulling the wool over my eyes [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

On a 10,000 selection of hands at .50/1.00 pulled out of PT .. Weighted Contribution $179.62 .. Non-Weighted .. $298.25 .. and Hands Dealt for comparison .. $299.07

My affiliate reports a MGR around about the $179.62 ..

So .. am I getting ripped or is it Weighted???
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Old 05-20-2006, 11:05 AM
RakebackStore RakebackStore is offline
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Default Re: does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

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[ QUOTE ]
It is contributed, but not weighted.

"As long as a player contributes to the pot he will gain an equal share
of the rake."

Regards,
Affiliate Support

[/ QUOTE ]

Just curious as to where you got that from? According to my calculations, it IS weighted. Unless my affiliate is pulling the wool over my eyes [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

On a 10,000 selection of hands at .50/1.00 pulled out of PT .. Weighted Contribution $179.62 .. Non-Weighted .. $298.25 .. and Hands Dealt for comparison .. $299.07

My affiliate reports a MGR around about the $179.62 ..

So .. am I getting ripped or is it Weighted???

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I cut and pasted that from an e-mail from affiliate support at Eurobet.
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Old 05-20-2006, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

i am not his affiliate and they give wrong information from the affiliate departments. when i get an email from poker room i will post it...but i am almost positive it is weighted, from phone conversation with one of the managers named Henrik.
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Old 05-21-2006, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: does anyone know how to calculate Eurobet RB?

Lets just say that if you happen to open a Pokeroom skin (ongame network in reality) then they send a guy to explain to your support guys the Ongame software. This guy (who is head of support or smthing) said with certainty that it is weighted contributed. From my experience playing in eurobet i'd say that is weighted contributed also.
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