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Old 05-18-2006, 03:59 PM
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Default Selective Memory with Poker hands.

Why do most people in the world remember the bad beats from ridiculous calls vs the wins when people make dumb calls? Is it because of all the negative reinforcement our society provides us? I would like to know, I can remember most of my bad beats vs my good calls and better plays. I tend to think that a guy I play with on a reg basis is hitting every ridiculous draw. I finally started writing down on my books who's the big loser on the night. Well obviously it turns out its usually him, but he is a swing player so he is either down alot or up a lot, this is the only consistency in his play. This makes me wonder how bad our memories change our perception of peoples bad play, and how these people seem to be the luckiest people on the face of the planet.
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Old 05-18-2006, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: Selective Memory with Poker hands.

B/c your emotional response to losing is alot stronger than the one you have for winning.
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Old 05-18-2006, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Selective Memory with Poker hands.

When you make a good play, you determine that there's nothing to correct. When you make a bad play, you focus on correcting your play for the future. Bad beats are easily correlated with playing poorly, even though the relationship is a false one.

In limit, I can't be bothered to remember bad beats any more than good plays, because none of them stand out. In NL, I remember the biggest pots I've played, regardless of the winner or severity of the beat.
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Old 05-18-2006, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Selective Memory with Poker hands.

You should read Kahneman's work on decision making for the answers to your questions. His Prospect Theory explains it well.
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Old 05-18-2006, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Selective Memory with Poker hands.

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You should read Kahneman's work on decision making for the answers to your questions. His Prospect Theory explains it well.

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Link?
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Old 05-18-2006, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: Selective Memory with Poker hands.

Sounds interesting, maybe I will check it out.
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Old 05-18-2006, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Selective Memory with Poker hands.

Okay I am not sure which text to look for, any suggestions.
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Old 05-18-2006, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: Selective Memory with Poker hands.

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Okay I am not sure which text to look for, any suggestions.

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Yeah, sorry i should have posted references.

Start with these:

Tversky & Kahneman. (1981). The framing of decisions and the psychology of choice. Science, 211, 453-458.

Kahneman & Tversky. (1984). Choices Values and Frames, American Psychologist, 39, 341-50.

Kahneman, D. (1991). Judgment and decision making: A personal view. Psychological Science, 2(3), 142-145.
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: Selective Memory with Poker hands.

Selective exposure and selective perception are well-established in behavior economics, psychology, etc.:

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