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Old 05-15-2006, 09:00 AM
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Default Push Nut Flush?

$200 NL Blinds $1/$2

Second orbit, no player reads.

Hero $212
Villian $198

Hero is on BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB posts $1, Hero posts $2, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, SB completes.

Flop ($8) 4 Players

3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Sb Checks, Hero bets $6, CO folds, Button raises to $12, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn ($32) 2 players

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Hero checks, Villian bets $10, Hero calls

River ($52) 2 players

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Hero bets $12, Button Raises to $24, Hero raises to $36, Button raises to $48

Hero??????

What is he 4 betting me on? Call or raise?
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:02 AM
HedonismBot HedonismBot is offline
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Default Re: Push Nut Flush?

Raise to 100, call a push.
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: Push Nut Flush?

Anyone else just 3-bet the flop?
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: Push Nut Flush?

If he has the SF pay it off I guess.
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: Push Nut Flush?

If he's got a straight flush then he's a moron for not pushing after you 3-bet the river since it's pretty obvious what you have. Since we've deduced that he's a moron he could have Kh. I just push.
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: Push Nut Flush?

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Anyone else just 3-bet the flop?

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How much? Enough to push him out or enough to take control of the hand? I would have three bet for sure with postion.
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: Push Nut Flush?

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If he has the SF pay it off I guess.

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I am obviously calling, but do you reraise?
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: Push Nut Flush?

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If he's got a straight flush then he's a moron for not pushing after you 3-bet the river since it's pretty obvious what you have. Since we've deduced that he's a moron he could have Kh. I just push.

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Yes, I think it is obvious what I have too, that is why the 4 bet scares me, how bad would he have to be to 4 bet me with just the K high flush?
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Old 05-15-2006, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Push Nut Flush?

By the way, I felt like an idiot for just calling after he shows the J Hearts for a J high flush!!!!
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Old 05-15-2006, 10:01 AM
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9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero bets $12, Button Raises to $24, Hero raises to $36, Button raises to $48

Hero??????

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I'm really not sure who played the hand worse, you or him

I think normally the only way you are getting money into the pot on this one is if you C/R the river, I hate check raising but I think its a good move on this hand

Also why are you betting $12 into $52 pot on the river? either check or bet at least 2/3rds the pot ($35+). Most of the time this will be super transparent that you have the nut flush when you throw that tiny bet out there. Depending on your image that big bet on the river with the 4th heart could be seen as a steal attempt by some donks and they will pay you off, better players will pay you off if they see you make a big play like that when you are trying to steal...

Stop min raising and betting less than 1/2 of the pot and playing hands becomes a lot easier
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