STRANGE MIRAGE Poker rule - Chopping the Blinds

[surfinillini]

Yesterday I encountered a strange rule at the mirage...about two hours before this hand me and the BB chopped the pot without looking at our cards...

fast forward to hours later, he's extremely drunk and I'm looking to play a big pot with him every chance I get...

folded around, I ask him if he wants to play or chop, he says he wants to play it out

I complete, he checks, dealer asks us if we've chopped before, we both say one time before

dealer drops the deck and says once you chop you must continue to chop until you leave the table

WIERD???

anyone else know of this same rule...dealer says it was to prevent angle shooting, but if we both consented to play it out I don't get it?

[csuf_gambl0r]

sounds like a very good rule. prevents those scumbags from selective chopping.

you either always chop or never chop

[Andrew Karpinski]

Chopping should always be voluntary but this rule is OK.

[thedustbustr]

if both players don't want to chop, they should be allowed to do whatever they want. its etiquette to be consistent, but its not the dealer's job to enforce etiquette.

if it actually was a rule, then tough [censored].

[Dominic]

more importantly, how did the Mirage smell in comparison to the Venetian?

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[Warren Harding]

I'd like this as a rule. I had an annoying experience at the Oaks 3/6 last night. I rarely play at tables tight enough for chopping to come up, but it did then, and players would always look at their cards first before deciding. "Do you chop?", "Well, not if I like my hand."

I didn't complain as I was the odd one out, but it does not seem right. Is this occurrance common or acceptable in many places?

[relayerdave]

O.K., there's a new one..."Angle shooting"???

[bav]

I'm rather astounded if this is really an official Mirage rule. Hard to imagine they'd try to legislate this. Feels much more to me like a dealer making up rules as she goes. But... stranger things have happened and the Mirage has always kinda marched to its own drumbeat.

If it's a real rule, how is this supposed to be enforced dealer-to-dealer? Each dealer is supposed to tell the next incoming one "those two chopped once, and those two chopped once" and pass it on each down? And what if two players agree "we'll chop as long as there are at least 7 players, otherwise we'll play it out". Dealer is now supposed to pass THAT knowledge along when tapped out? Hopeless, unenforceable rule.

Sounds like a good thing to ask the next random floor who looks bored. I wouldn't pause the game to call 'em over to rule, but on the next restroom run if you see a bored floorperson, ask.

[Masquerade]

As a matter of etiquette between players then of course you should agree to chop or not. But it's got nothing to do with the dealer and in any case, if it's hours later, how does the dealer know what you agreed earlier?

[Barry]

The player who always chopped can inform the dealer that they had chopped before and the others at the table can confirm.

And yes, it is the only room that I know that actually has this rule. I think it is a good rule to enforce etiquitte. The Wynn has a rule that you can't ask to see a mucked hand unless you suspect collusion. So if you're HU and call a river bet and lose the winner can't see your hand. I had this situation come up and the floor ruled that my hand could not be shown.