5/10 - flopped bottom set

[capone0]

I wish I was the Button, I think your giving him way too much credit. He might be good but he can easily have a lot of hands. I think your possible hands are way too restrictive even if the player is that good.

Is your read on the Button really that exact? You've put him on exactly 1 of 2 hands. Why are you more comfortable with a A102 flop then the one above? Obviously you've pointed out that the Villian probally has a big pair, why can't he have AA? Are you that scared of the Button, will the button only call PSB with sets? As I said, if so then it's an easy muck, if he calls PSB on the flop with anything less this is a very hard muck. I don't have that great of reads on anyone online, obviously you do with said button.

Also as someone said earlier, why call a short stack with 22 if your not going for set value. You got almost your dream flop and now it's an muck? What more do you want, 228 flop and the button has 88? I'm not sure what your gunning for with 22 other than a set on an action flop.

[tyboy74]

I dont think folding on the flop is a good option. You have flopped bottom set of a flop of (8,5,2) The only hands that have you beat at this point is pocket 5 and 8. As stated in previous post. If you are going to fold here then why would you even play this hand in the first place? The flop came just as you have hoped for. I think the only real debate here is calling or raising. I think the best play here is to smooth call and bet or raise on the turn. This way you allow the donkey to trap himself even more. Of course the downside is that a scare card like a 6,7 or 9 can come on the turn. But nothing venture nothing gain. In poker you have to take risk and this is not even that big of a risk. And even if one of those scare cards come, your opponent still have to be holding the two perfect card to make a stright to beat you.

[Melchiades]

Can't someone tell OP what he wants to hear so we can let this thread die? You should obviously fold here, button has a higher set.

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You should obviously fold here, button has a higher set.

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[charga04]

call, lead turn

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call, lead turn

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With what intention?

[charga04]

seems to me as if mp2 can have antyin from overpair/air and button clearly has an overpair... whcih there is enoguh money in the pot there on turn that atleast 1 of them HAS to call

[yvesaint]

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call, lead turn

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With what intention?

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to fold, button has a higher set.

[El Diablo]

Mods,

In all seriousness, threads like this should be moved to mid or small stakes forum.

[pocketjesuits]

Why?

We're playing for stacks here and it's an intricate question of table dynamic and ranges.

Seems like this is supposed to be the forum for high-level thinking, but all I hear is "you're a fool if you fold a set." Perhaps some of the responses are what belong in the mid/small stakes forum.

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Can't someone tell OP what he wants to hear so we can let this thread die? You should obviously fold here, button has a higher set.

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Perhaps I just wanted to hear some thought put in as to what button could quickly call with on the flop that I have beat and call a potential turn bet. Instead what I get is "you have a set you idiot - push!!!!" and a bunch of insinuations that I am weak/tight simply because I am thinking about button's hand range instead of playing on autopilot.
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Obviously you've pointed out that the Villian probally has a big pair, why can't he have AA?

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99% sure button never cold-calls w AA as the third one in the pot, letting everyone in for cheap.

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Why are you more comfortable with a A102 flop then the one above?

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AT2 two-tone, button could reasonably have two-pair on a draw. On this board there is almost no hand where he calls quickly other than a set, and possibly JJ.


Anyways, thanks to all who responded seriously.