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Old 05-07-2006, 02:06 PM
kerplunkNL kerplunkNL is offline
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Default AQ w/ A-flop vs potbet from pf-raiser

Villain is 22.9/11.4/4 over 70 hands. No further reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($11.77)
Hero ($45.83)
MP3 ($9.65)
CO ($14.95)
Button ($18.58)
SB ($25)
BB ($4.95)
UTG ($42.30)
UTG+1 ($28.73)
UTG+2 ($11.03)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $1</font>, UTG+2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $5</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero ??

Is villain's range big enough to call this?
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Old 05-07-2006, 02:25 PM
Cormia Cormia is offline
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Default Re: AQ w/ A-flop vs potbet from pf-raiser

The depends on how much villian adjusts his raises for position. If he does adjust his raises for position... than you should have folded pre-flop, or reraised. AQo is a TP type hand, one you do not want to be playing multiway here. Here, with position and accounting for positions (both his and yours), I would say reraising&gt;folding&gt;calling, since you need to both thin the field and define villians hand, neither of which calling does, while folding prevents you from playing a potentially very costly AQ vs AK hand. In this regard, his range is just big enough to potentially make AQ the best hand here and thus worth the reraise.

As played however, you really only beat AT/KK/QQ here. But you haven't defined what he has. Because the A fell and he bet into a 5-way pot, I am guessing he has at least TPTK. I can find a fold here.
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Old 05-07-2006, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: AQ w/ A-flop vs potbet from pf-raiser

Did you consider a fold preflop?

rgrds,

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Old 05-07-2006, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: AQ w/ A-flop vs potbet from pf-raiser

i fold pf
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Old 05-07-2006, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: AQ w/ A-flop vs potbet from pf-raiser

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i fold pf

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Yeah. FR is the devil btw.
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Old 05-07-2006, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: AQ w/ A-flop vs potbet from pf-raiser

I figured I had position on him. But often I call this OOP too. Which is probably very bad.
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Old 05-07-2006, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: AQ w/ A-flop vs potbet from pf-raiser

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i fold pf

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Yeah. FR is the devil btw.

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But it is so delightfully boring. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-07-2006, 03:32 PM
Fishmonger Fishmonger is offline
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Default Re: AQ w/ A-flop vs potbet from pf-raiser

Situations like this are the reason that this is a fold preflop. What seals the deal for me is that the typical patsy hand to yours (AJ) is also ahead of you on this flop.
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Old 05-07-2006, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: AQ w/ A-flop vs potbet from pf-raiser

How often does this guy cbet? I have very similar stats and could easily have TT here or worse depending on the table. I would probably rereaise preflop or fold.
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