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05-07-2006, 01:54 PM
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Jacks against a TAG
Villian is a multi-tabling sLAG - Plays more hands than perhaps he should for full ring, but nothing super excessive and I frequently use his style. However, not sure if he'll stack off on just an overpair....
No real history between each other, he may be a 2+2...not sure. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com SB ($43.40) BB ($37.33) UTG ($38.55) Hero ($100) MP1 ($325.94) MP2 ($57.85) CO ($154.60) Button ($95.50) Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.50. <font color="blue"> Calling seems automatic here. </font> Flop: ($17.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $12. <font color="blue"> Quite sure he would C-bet any missed AK, so I lead out (as I would with a set). When he mini-raises I think his hand is well defined as a big overpair. Against a player who I *knew* could lay down an overpair, I'd push (as I would with a set) - However, I don't know that. Should I simply fold here? I also don't know if my implied odds are good enough when I do make my hand. </font> Turn: ($65.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $23</font>, Hero calls $23. <font color="blue"> Very weak turn bet here...possibly scared or just trying to keep the pot under control and still gain value from draws. Calling here super bad? </font> 
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#6
05-07-2006, 07:37 PM
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Re: Jacks against a TAG
Calling the flop is fine if you put him on an overpair and think he won't fold. However, if that's the case, you shouldn't have led the flop in the first place. If his range is wider or if he could fold an overpair, shoving the flop is nice.
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#9
05-07-2006, 07:59 PM
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Re: Jacks against a TAG
to elaborate, it looks like villian has AA,KK or AKs (or QQ, same thing) after his flop raise, which with implied odds we can certainly call. When he bets small on the turn it makes me think AK more than an overpair, but it's small enough that we can call because we might be ahead and we still have our straight outs. I doubt he bets the river with a busted spade draw, so if no overs come, we dont hit, and he bets river I think we can give it up.
ANy good?
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#10
05-07-2006, 09:51 PM
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Re: Jacks against a TAG
some players who normally won't fold overpairs will fold them to a juicy checkraise on the flop. they never interpret bet/3bet as anything other than top pair/weaker overpair but a check/raise scares the [censored] out of them.
but if you aren't sure about his range until the minraise, i think push or fold is mandatory. i can't imagine he's stacking off here if you hit one of your draws unless the bottom card pairs and he valiantly convinces himself your 910 just got counterfeited. Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 33,660 games 0.031 secs 1,085,806 games/sec Board: Ts 9s 8c Dead: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 53.2204 % 52.81% 00.41% { JcJh } Hand 2: 46.7796 % 46.37% 00.41% { QQ+, AKs, AKo } if we take out AK/AKs he has you 2:1. pretty gross. on the turn we're pretty much dead to everything but AK but i guarantee your flop cold call has him scared. still, i sense a check/push of his weak ass bet has very little FE so you have to dump it. even if you think he checks all rivers behind (likely) i don't think you improve often enough or have implied odds when you do to call. one other thing, i don't think a 2p2er min3bets PF with QQ-AA.
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