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Old 05-04-2006, 04:11 AM
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If poker rooms don't enforce their rules and shut down the accounts of people who are playing who are underage, isn't that a huge argument in favor of prohibiting online poker as it currently exists? If the poker sites want to stay in business, they should get serious and ban the cheaters.

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1) Playing underage isn't cheating. Being underage does not magically give you some kind of inherent advantage. Next time, try using a more appropriate word, like "rule breakers"

2) Playing underage is not a problem if the person underage is responsible or has positive parental influence. Unfortunately this usually isn't the case, but that's not the problem of online poker room's. That's a problem of personal responsibility and proper parenting. Welcome to the world of business.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:01 AM
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If poker rooms don't enforce their rules and shut down the accounts of people who are playing who are underage, isn't that a huge argument in favor of prohibiting online poker as it currently exists? If the poker sites want to stay in business, they should get serious and ban the cheaters.

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And let's start forcing people to get permits to drink beer to make sure that no one gives it to underage drinkers.

Name a few ways online sites can enforce this sort of thing. Even identity verification (driver's license, etc) wouldn't be foolproof.

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This is exactly why it would be ammo for the anti-gambling lobby.
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Old 05-04-2006, 07:50 AM
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Playing underage is not a problem if the person underage is responsible or has positive parental influence.

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The people who make the rules do not see it this way.
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Old 05-04-2006, 09:17 AM
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The people who make the rules cater to the Bible and should be kicked out of Washington. That's not my point, though.

Sites like PartyPoker and PokerStars are not to blame when it comes to their inability to enforce minors from playing. Doing so would open a Pandora's box against all major gambling institutions, wouldn't it? The government should instead be looking at financial and parental institutions that are allowing minors to transfer money to these gambling sites, intentionally or not.
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Old 05-04-2006, 09:23 AM
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Nobody said otherwise, Clayton. I'm simply telling you that it is not your opinion that matters on whether -18 is an acceptable age to gamble.
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Old 05-04-2006, 09:27 AM
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Well, obviously. I never intended otherwise, and it would be kinda foolish for anyone else to assume so. After all, I'm just a regular joe.
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Old 05-04-2006, 09:56 AM
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You don't have to be a member of the religious right to believe that underage gambling is wrong.

The biggest argument that those trying to ban internet gambling have on their side is that it is too easy for kids to gamble. If I were sponsoring the ban in Congress, Ozzy Sheikh would be the first witness I would call in front to testify in front of the committee.

Also, players who break the rules in this way do get an advantage. They get extra years of experience that those who followed the rules never got. If I were an 18-year old playing a WPT event who had never played high stakes poker before and I was playing against another 18-year old who had been playing every day for the last 3 years, I would think he had an unfair advantage.
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Old 05-04-2006, 10:25 AM
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Also, players who break the rules in this way do get an advantage. They get extra years of experience that those who followed the rules never got. If I were an 18-year old playing a WPT event who had never played high stakes poker before and I was playing against another 18-year old who had been playing every day for the last 3 years, I would think he had an unfair advantage.

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That is possibly the most retarded argument i have ever heard....
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:28 AM
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You don't have to be a member of the religious right to believe that underage gambling is wrong.

The biggest argument that those trying to ban internet gambling have on their side is that it is too easy for kids to gamble. If I were sponsoring the ban in Congress, Ozzy Sheikh would be the first witness I would call in front to testify in front of the committee.

Also, players who break the rules in this way do get an advantage. They get extra years of experience that those who followed the rules never got. If I were an 18-year old playing a WPT event who had never played high stakes poker before and I was playing against another 18-year old who had been playing every day for the last 3 years, I would think he had an unfair advantage.

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Yeah right. And the next person you would call would be Phil Ivey who played as a teenager with a fake ID in brick and mortars. Then you could ban all casinos. Uneforceable rules will be broken. Regulating this would not affect the number of rulebreakers. I don't see how Poker Stars, Party Poker etc. should attempt to stem the tide here. Where as there is alot they could do to stop Multi-accounters.
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:50 AM
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Also, players who break the rules in this way do get an advantage. They get extra years of experience that those who followed the rules never got. If I were an 18-year old playing a WPT event who had never played high stakes poker before and I was playing against another 18-year old who had been playing every day for the last 3 years, I would think he had an unfair advantage.

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That is possibly the most retarded argument i have ever heard....

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