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Old 05-02-2006, 12:28 AM
gaming_mouse gaming_mouse is offline
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From the random play generator: call and donk the turn.

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what are we hoping will happen?
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:32 AM
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Villain unknown. If you don't like this, what do you do here?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

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I want to say check raise call 3 bet then fold turn unless you improve

if he just calls your check raise, bet turn and not put any more money in on this hand.

This line comes down to how often you think you might get an unknown to fold a better hand TT+?
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:35 AM
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I want to say check raise call 3 bet then fold turn unless you improve

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This is terrible. You have a 2 outer. Why would you call a 3b to try to improve getting 15:1 odds?
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:44 AM
The Bryce The Bryce is offline
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To catch those clever 3 bet for showdown raises with 88 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] When I donk the turn I expect my opponent to be confused and call down light. It's both scary and donkish. You can do all kinds of stuff here, though. C/R, B/F, C/F is probably good.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:01 AM
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You can do all kinds of stuff here, though. C/R, B/F, C/F is probably good.

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I assume you mean on the flop? That is what confused me about this hand. It seemed like either just fold (may be best, but not sure), or else you could try all sorts of fancy tricks, and which one of those is best?

Would you mind giving some more analysis? Also, what do you think a unknowns 3b range is? How often are we ahead? I don't think its very often, and I don't think higher PPs are ever folding.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:11 AM
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Oh, I think the flop fold is fine. The reverse you get by continuing is pretty terrible and you're not ahead all that often considering your position pre-flop. If you were in the CO and button popped you I would take a run at it.
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