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Old 04-30-2006, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: KQs to super draw

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defineatly lead out on the turn with oesd, flush draw and 2 over cards

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This is the exact reason you don't lead the turn. With that many outs you have to call a raise. Yes, your equity on the turn is enough to bet if: A. you are 100% sure both will call, and B. You are sure neither will raise.
C/C the turn

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I disagree. I think a bet here will induce a fold often enough to show a profit. Because the villian called the flop bet doesnt mean he has a piece of the board. He could have over cards. Therea are 7 BB in the middle. I think we fold him here more than 1/6 and if he calls you still have outs including your overcards. You may even induce a better hand to fold such as AQ or AK. I like the OP line given the freflop action.

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Granted we may induce both of them to fold. BUT GETTING RAISED WHEN WE HAVE THAT MANY OUTS SUCKS. and our edge is not great even with a ton of draws and some FE
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