F'n AK

Perseus · #1 04-28-2006, 11:13 PM

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Button ($52.80)
SB ($181.62)
BB ($481.37)
Hero ($196)
MP ($219.39)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $8, MP calls $8, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $7, 1 fold.

Flop: ($26) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $15, MP calls $15, SB raises to $38, Hero raises to $75

Isura · #2 04-28-2006, 11:14 PM

Did you think SB was bluffing?

Perseus · #3 04-28-2006, 11:26 PM

No reads, but I thought that this was a better way to play assuming I'm folding to an All-In.

How do you approach this?

Isura · #4 04-28-2006, 11:29 PM

It's not bad if SB will clearly defines his hand after your 3-bet.

beavens · #5 04-28-2006, 11:53 PM

villian flips 88/44

crego20 · #6 04-29-2006, 12:18 AM

With MP coming along I'm not 3-betting here.

It may be weak, but I think I'm laying this down here. You raised UTG, and you have 2 people who have called, then raised your flop bet on an Ace high flop. Uggh.

kslghost · #7 04-29-2006, 12:22 AM

I think this is fine if you think MP is calling with something horrible.

PokerChobo · #8 04-29-2006, 06:07 AM

I really dont see most players raising a flushdraw/weak ace here so I fold to this minraise and cry myself to sleep.

Spy Dog · #9 04-29-2006, 06:15 AM

I'd call the flop raise. You are getting 4:1 on your call and a 3rd flush card gives you a draw to the nuts and quite possibly slows down villian at the same time. A flop call by 2 opponents should also slow down worse Aces. Folding here isn't bad if you had a read, but I want to see the turn card and SB's action before giving up.

PokerChobo · #10 04-29-2006, 06:22 AM

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I'd call the flop raise. You are getting 4:1 on your call and a 3rd flush card gives you a draw to the nuts and quite possibly slows down villian at the same time. A flop call by 2 opponents should also slow down worse Aces. Folding here isn't bad if you had a read, but I want to see the turn card and SB's action before giving up.

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1)If villain was a 22/10/4 tag would u fold to this raise? I assume thats the kind of player we behind most often to (since he has much smaller range and doesnt play like a donk).
2) With no reads after you call the raise, if a club doesnt come on the turn you would c/f this to a 1/2 PSB or greater?
3)If a club does come you c/c with good odds? or maybe lead for 1/2 pot? or maybe c/r all-in if his turn bet is weakish (like around 1/2 PSB0?

Sorry for all the situations i feel like such a leach but these spots are the hardest for me. <3