32K pot against Bld with 8 high? toughest decision I've ever had!

[amoeba]

hey sam,

I know you put him on set on turn, so what do you think about push overbetting the turn?

[yvesaint]

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Was $65 a standard bet for you here? When you bet $65 pre and had your hand shown down what was the strength of the hand in previous hands that Bld might have seen. Thing is this, AAA is out of the question because of how long you took. I think he can put you on JJJ here but what percent of the time will he do so and how often does he fold a set? If he flopped a set he played it extremely quickly. Wouldn't be surprised if he had air here.

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65 is pretty standard for sam pf here

[luckychewy]

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hey sam,

I know you put him on set on turn, so what do you think about push overbetting the turn?

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I think he'd be more inclined to call since a combo draw is more likely than a set. As played I think it's gonna be hard to sell AA/34 and especially JJ here. I like folding, but if you shove the FE you have coupled with the fact he actually doesn't have anything are pretty good because I think his flop 3-bet is sketchy and DOESN'T represent a set. Still, I would fold. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[obvvvv]

Ok ty...the possibility of him having nothing here makes the EV of this move greater. Putting that into consideration I actually like a push.

[LegallyBlind]

Im pretty suprised that so many people think Bld's decision to make a 5 buy in river call will be decided by the amount of time it takes Sam to act. If so many of you feel that running down your timer is going be the difference in your opponent calling or folding, I hope your running it down evertime your begging for a call on the river.

[Subfallen]

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Im pretty suprised that so many people think Bld's decision to make a 5 buy in river call will be decided by the amount of time it takes Sam to act. If so many of you feel that running down your timer is going be the difference in your opponent calling or folding, I hope your running it down evertime your begging for a call on the river.

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Yes, I hardly dare say, for fear it's completely stupid---but isn't Bld just as likely to take the long pause as a reverse tell as a true one?

[KRANTZ]

his flop call/3-bet do represent a set, but combined with his turn/river action (what does he realistically expect you to call with if he's betting so hard?) do not

[cardsharkk04]

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Im pretty suprised that so many people think Bld's decision to make a 5 buy in river call will be decided by the amount of time it takes Sam to act. If so many of you feel that running down your timer is going be the difference in your opponent calling or folding, I hope your running it down evertime your begging for a call on the river.

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When people have the nuts, or close to it there is just a natural tendency to get it all in the pot relatively quickly. Waiting till the timer goes down implies thinking, which is something you don't have to do much of when you know your hand is good. Just looks fishy.

[EmpireMaker2]

The only thing that makes sense is if you had AA.......

You would of raised the turn with JJ, and the flop or turn with the straight.....


I just don't see this bluff working if you know he has a set.

[yvesaint]

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and the flop or turn with the straight.....



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um dude no possible straight on flop/turn