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Old 04-21-2006, 07:27 PM
Wu36 Wu36 is offline
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Default FR, WTF: AKo calldown

Villian was 22/14/3 after another irrelevant sample, I've yet to showdown a hand or put any real pressure on anyone.
I'm more interested in the flop/turn than the river.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+2 ($814.60)
MP1 ($649.52)
MP2 ($321)
MP3 ($354.40)
CO ($476.48)
Button ($398)
SB ($612.50)
Hero ($400)
UTG ($261.75)
UTG+1 ($448.11)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, UTG+1 calls $20, MP1 folds, Button folds.

Flop: ($58) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $86</font>, Hero calls $50.

Turn: ($230) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $130</font>, Hero calls $130.

River: ($490) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 calls $208.11 (All-In), Hero calls $160 (All-In).

Final Pot: $858.11
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Old 04-21-2006, 08:43 PM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: FR, WTF: AKo calldown

This flop line is fine, but i'd prefer to bet-fold the turn instead of calling off your stack (and potentially giving a free card to the flush draw)
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Old 04-21-2006, 08:47 PM
shobute shobute is offline
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Default Re: FR, WTF: AKo calldown

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This flop line is fine, but i'd prefer to bet-fold the turn instead of calling off your stack (and potentially giving a free card to the flush draw)

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I agree.

Fold flop against nits (there are lots at FR).
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Old 04-21-2006, 09:56 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: FR, WTF: AKo calldown

This looks like over-playing TPTK for all your chips when 1-pair usually isn't good in a big pot. But exactly where can you get away from it? I'm not sure.

Maybe lead the turn and fold to another raise?

By the time you get to the river with only $160 left and a pot of $490, you're pretty much pot-committed. So if you're going to get away it has to be on the turn. So, I guess lead the turn for 1/2 pot and fold to another raise.
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Old 04-22-2006, 01:05 AM
Wu36 Wu36 is offline
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Default Re: FR, WTF: AKo calldown

The river call was never a question imo.
The flop raise and turn line were my main concerns, with a solid read the flop could easily be a fold. On the turn I wasn't sure if bet/fold or c/c was better, it seems the consensus is b/f.

Meaningless results, I call down and beat AQo.
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Old 04-22-2006, 01:12 AM
Requin Requin is offline
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Default Re: FR, WTF: AKo calldown

Please get your money in on the turn, leaving that much behind is not acceptable. Either fold to the turn bet, or push it in when it gets back to you. I like open pushing the turn though.
Edit: oh and raise more preflop for sure, to something over 30.
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Old 04-22-2006, 01:42 AM
junglewarfare junglewarfare is offline
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Default Re: FR, WTF: AKo calldown

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This flop line is fine, but i'd prefer to bet-fold the turn instead of calling off your stack (and potentially giving a free card to the flush draw)

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It's hard to disagree with DJ Sensei. Betting the turn makes life easier.

i'm curious, if you bet the turn and are called, check fold the river? i pretty much know that is the right line since a TAG player will check behind the river with one pair, but I sometimes don't do a good enough job convincing myself of that.
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