Tough turn call with TPTK

[ender555]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) converter

Button ($420)
SB ($203.75)
BB ($1586.25)
UTG ($1642.50)
MP ($2581)
Hero ($1163)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $45</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $35.

Flop: ($105) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, UTG calls $100.

Turn: ($305) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $250</font>, UTG calls $1497.50 (All-In), Hero calls $768 (All-In).

River: ($2820.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $2820.50


I would usually fold here, but I think the way he played it screams draw... thoughts?

[Requin]

Looks fine

[bigt439]

Reads?

[ahnuld]

You can pot control the turn by checking. There are alot of draws but if villan will CR allin with a draw checking saves you from having a tough decision like this one and you wont pay off a 9.

[bigt439]

Also, isn't this a very standard turn check?

[Time4Pizza]

It certainly screams draw to me. It would take a very sly player to push all in w/a full house right there. Very tough spot, and the odd part is that his gross overbet is really the reason you want to call! As I said, if he's a skilled player and had a house, and thought he could represent a draw by making that move... well good for him, I think you deserve to pay him off. Only way I don't call, if he's an uber tight rock who I've seen make no out of line moves.

[ender555]

why do you think this is a standard turn check? If someone wants to push a draw on me That's fine, but I don't want to give them free cards right?

I really don't have a read on him as I was playin 8 tables and he wasnt a regular or a player id seen before.

[Time4Pizza]

Absolutely right ender... you cannot give a free card on the turn. That would be a horrific error. If you think you have the best hand, and you got the guy on a draw (which is so very likely in this case) you must bet.

[emil3000]

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Also, isn't this a very standard turn check?

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I think this would be a very weak turn check. If you are very unsure of the right move when he checkraises you, you can start considering it.

[luckychewy]

Draw heavy board and you want to give a free one with TPTK against an unknown who limp/called UTG? Bet turn as you did and call the AI like you did, love your line, dunno what everyone else's arguments for checking turn are.