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#21
01-07-2006, 06:08 AM
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Re: Do you call, fold, or raise?
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You shouldn't be folding this flop to anyone, unknown player or not. I really don't get what you guys are accomplishing with a flop 3-bet in this spot either. [/ QUOTE ] there are many opponents i run into with ~10% bet flop and almost nonexistant raise flop %, i will fold this in second to them. and there are alot of aggressive players who will raise with draws or second pair or even into any flop with A or K if they put you on smaller pocket pair & you are seen as a TAG folder 
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#22
01-07-2006, 06:13 AM
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Re: Do you call, fold, or raise?
You're getting nearly 20-1 after it is raised. My point is that regardless of reads, I think this is close enough that when you're holding the Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] you shouldn't ever be folding.
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#23
01-07-2006, 09:03 AM
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Re: Do you call, fold, or raise?
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You're getting nearly 20-1 after it is raised. My point is that regardless of reads, I think this is close enough that when you're holding the Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] you shouldn't ever be folding. [/ QUOTE ] true, in this big of pot im calling down. but in general i think you can fold smaller pots here to a raise from a very tight player
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#25
01-07-2006, 11:39 AM
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Re: Do you call, fold, or raise?
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I didn't say call down. I'm saying call and fold turn UI. [/ QUOTE ] Honestly? No way I'm folding this one just because somebody raised a 2-club flop with 3 callers in the pot so far. I'd be planning on calling it down (folding a turn or river club), but when the Q hits I'd try to c/r. KO
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#26
01-07-2006, 12:43 PM
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Re: Do you call, fold, or raise?
Looks like one of those bridge puzzles from the newspaper.
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#27
01-07-2006, 04:14 PM
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Re: Do you call, fold, or raise?
I'm not sure why you think your hand is so good after you raised preflop, got called in 90 spots, bet a K-high flop, got called in two spots, and then raised? Also, why would you fold a club turn?
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#28
01-07-2006, 04:26 PM
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Re: Do you call, fold, or raise?
because it was pissing me off i found the extra color tag in your post. here's the hand. gotta peel that flop.
Paradise Poker 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls. Flop: (14.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, BB folds, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls. Turn: (10.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks. River: (10.70 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds. Final Pot: 11.70 BB </font>
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