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Old 04-16-2006, 01:21 PM
thirddan thirddan is offline
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Default Live 9/18...

Live 9/18 at commerce - some people are walking so we are six handed...

someone just got up so we have two big blinds, Hero is in the small blind spot with a full blind posted with QJo no spade...

Preflop: folded to button who is not good, but not super loose who opens...Hero calls, BB who is super loose/relatively passive calls also...

Flop: 8s Tc 4s (3 players, 6sb)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets, Hero raises, BB folds, Button calls...

Turn: Ad (2 players, 7bb)
Hero bets, Button calls...

River: 5c (2 players, 9bb)
Hero ????

what do you think so far, and whats my river play?
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Old 04-16-2006, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Live 9/18...

bet-fold? Although with the pot this big they are calling K-hi and pairs anyways. Maybe c/f is best.
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Old 04-16-2006, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Live 9/18...

Jeez. You've gotten this far, bet again.
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Old 04-16-2006, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Live 9/18...

There's little to no chance of you winning if you check right? Seems to me like there's not much choice.
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Old 04-16-2006, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Live 9/18...

Button = loose + not good = can't fold to a flop c/r and will probably call turn. You don't know anything about his hand except that he raised pf (maybe ace broadway so your outs for Q and J aren't clear). I check/call the flop and check/fold turn.

He is going to call that river bet with everything that beats you. Just check/fold river.
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Old 04-16-2006, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Live 9/18...

i should also note that i think villain will call a river bet with any pair, but fold any non-pair...also, i don't really know villains steal requirements or if he will adjust them based on the fact that there is no chance of him stealing when there are two big blinds posted...
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Old 04-16-2006, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Live 9/18...

i like the flop c/r, but is this turn bet standard?
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Old 04-16-2006, 02:06 PM
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i'd bet this turn after c/r the flop all day long.
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Old 04-16-2006, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Live 9/18...

Maybe the 9/18 game has changed since I last played it, but is bluffing really a good idea there? I find your flop check raise very questionable.
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Old 04-17-2006, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: Live 9/18...

I would probably bet the turn during play, but I think it might be a check/call. Look at the top 30% of hands or whatever you think his opening range is on the button with 2 big blinds, and the only thing I can see folding is like Kxs/Qxs where x<8 and not spades, and K9o. Everything else is paired or has a draw that isn't folding. And we'll often have to pay 2 bets to see the river.

On the river you're hoping to fold KQ/KJ, maybe protect against being bluffed by J9s sometimes. Figure out whether this is 10% of his range (discount J9s to how often you think he'd bluff it).
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