can I let go of KK anywhere here?

yourface · #1 04-13-2006, 02:12 PM

Villain is 51/4/2.9 over only 50 hands.
BB is a horrible horrible player and is the reason that I'm at this table.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG caps, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (15.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero

Can I fold this anywhere? I really wanted to but somehow couldn't being myself to do it. After I get 3bet on the flop I'm pretty sure I'm behind.

Giving him a capping range of JJ-AA, AKo, AKs, AQs I don't think he'd 3bet anything I'm ahead of except AcKc or the other KK, and thats a total of 2 hands. He might 3bet AQs too I guess, he is pretty aggro.

Edit: What is a standard win % for KK? 63.7% seems low to me, only slightly higher than my JJ.

Machinehead · #2 04-13-2006, 02:14 PM

No, you can't get rid of this anywhere. Infact, I lose at least 1 more BB on this hand than you did.

silly_monkey · #3 04-13-2006, 02:17 PM

I wouldn't have been able to fold here.

delta k · #4 04-13-2006, 02:17 PM

I play flop the same and probably raise the turn since there are so many draws that didn't come in and I want to charge UTG/fold BB and we don't get 3bet without a monster here. As played the river call is so so so so so so so simple with all the draws missing.

Dendrite · #5 04-13-2006, 02:23 PM

Against an unknown, you can't fold.

Since you have a read and his PFR is so low, you might be able to fold. But seeing a showdown can't be a large mistake.

Edit: Bleh. I take that back. I think AQ/AQs is entirely too likely. Don't fold.

JerseyTom · #6 04-13-2006, 03:29 PM

If you're going to fold this at all, it has to be on the turn. Once you've called the turn and the river blanks you have to call again.

I don't think I can find a fold here; he has AA/QQ often here, but not 94% of the time (16.5:1).

Tom

avisco01 · #7 04-13-2006, 03:42 PM

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No, you can't get rid of this anywhere. Infact, I lose at least 1 more BB on this hand than you did.

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Agreed, you got off cheaper than I would have as well.

crego20 · #8 04-13-2006, 03:42 PM

Looks good to me.

Anyone like raising the turn and folding to a 3-bet to punish the draws? How often would AQ 3-bet and move us off
the best hand at 1/2? BB sure looks like a flush draw that would be willing to call 2 now, but fold a blank river to me.

jba · #9 04-13-2006, 03:58 PM

I think putting in any more bets in this hand is spewing. I think you played it well.

siccjay · #10 04-14-2006, 05:59 AM

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I think putting in any more bets in this hand is spewing. I think you played it well.

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agreed