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rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
Think this question goes here. Was watching the 1994 WSOP final table the other day, the one with Russ Hamilton, Hugh Vincent, Spadevechia, etc. I think it was heads-up, Vincent raises out of the BB with K3o, gets called by Russ and HV gets check-raised a large amount by Russ on a KT6 flop. Would have put Vincent all-in or very close to it, I think. Inexact description I know, but all I want to know is about what Vincent did next. He rolls over the K, studies Russ for like a minute (TV time--could have been edited, who knows). Shortly later, rolls over the 3, studies more. Kicks it in.
Question is this: Still a legal move in NL tournaments at WSOP or any major MTT? Haven't seen it done since and was wondering. Anybody know what RH had there? No pocket-cams yet. |
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Re: rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
I've wondered this myself since I saw that video about 2 years ago. I don't think it's legal now, but I think it may have been at the time.
I've always wondered what Russ had here as well. Interesting hand. Peace Goodie |
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Re: rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
Good question.
Texas Dolly says he would make a similar move in SS with bullets he suspected had been cracked. A friend put me all in HU in a home game once so I tried the move with KQs - he wasn't at all happy and cried foul play so I'd be pleased to know the answer. Maybe try the wsop forum if you come up blank here. |
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Re: rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
i believe this is no longer legal but used to be. not sure though.
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Re: rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
okay, here's the current standard:
in a cash game, heads up, you can show cards at any time to try to get a reaction. If there are multiple people still in the pot, it's unethical, but will usually not be ruled a dead hand. in a tournament, since every hand you play affects the equity of the remaining players in the tournament (EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT IN THIS HAND), showing cards typically results in a dead hand if it was thought to be intentional. If it was a mistake, then it's floorperson discression and usually will result in either a penalty or a warning. However, this was heads up at the end of a tournament. Since there is nobody else's expectation to worry about except the players in the hand, I don't see why it wouldn't be okay to show cards at that stage. I'm sure that most tournament rule books don't make that distinction, though. |
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Re: rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
Yeah, I see what you mean, Registrar. Post should have went on "WPT, etc." Anyway. By the way, I think I read RH for a bluff C-R here. Call it a feeling.
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Re: rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
Thanks, Sossman. What do you think RH had?
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Re: rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
I saw a Omaha WSOP Event on TV and someone was debating and all in call and asked if he could show his oponent his hand. The answer was no, but it didn't come from the dealer, but i think it was Nagranue or someone else who i thought probaly knew the rules well enough. The dealer didn't object to the answer either.
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Re: rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
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Thanks, Sossman. What do you think RH had? [/ QUOTE ] impossible to tell w/out context of the previous hands. HU analysis in a vacuum is retarded. |
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Re: rules question about play from 1994 WSOP
Fair enough, Sossman. HV was betting big with all sorts of hands at the FT. Have to take into account the editing, of course. Still, think RH stole one, but never have played a NLT in my life.
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