How much action would you give

Mig · #1 04-10-2006, 05:27 PM

Vilain doesn't look great, he was an unknown to me at the time. 50 hands or so on him. So far, he seems on the loose side for short handed (35% vpip). He doesn't know where the fold button is (60% WTSD/ 38% won at SD). He has done strange stuff, raising JJ on the turn with a flopped KQ vs 2 opponents with no redraw, stuff like that.

Is it too aggro on the turn to 3 bet this kind of average player?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets ..

Standard ?

highlife · #2 04-10-2006, 05:30 PM

yes, standard, but if he caps the turn obviously check/call the river.

Schneids · #3 04-10-2006, 05:31 PM

I think call the turn raise and then either of c/r river (against aggro people you are expecting aren't just raising turn for free showdown) or bet/call river are better than bet 3-bet turn.

Mig · #4 04-10-2006, 06:23 PM

Aren't we missing value against some of his range like KK/QQ that he might want to cap for free showdown ?

RED_RAIN · #5 04-10-2006, 07:12 PM

Would your check/raise or bet/call on river play still not work if you were to 3 bet and he caps turn? Can we really put him that much on a hand that beats us instead of KK?

Schneids · #6 04-10-2006, 07:39 PM

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Would your check/raise or bet/call on river play still not work if you were to 3 bet and he caps turn? Can we really put him that much on a hand that beats us instead of KK?

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If I bet-3bet the turn and got capped I am probably check calling or else bet-calling the river. But yeah, I think it's starting to become v possible he capped PF with a ten or else some PP that made a boat.