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Old 04-08-2006, 01:17 AM
cardsharkk04 cardsharkk04 is offline
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Default Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

I have about 3k behind, Binda has me covered. So far Binda has been raising it up to $66 fairly often. I'm on his immediate left and have been floating a few flops and taking away if he shows weakness, but we haven't played a big pot together. Anyway he raises to 66 from UTG, I call with K 9 of hearts. There is also a call from the button and another call from the blinds. So 4 to the flop.

FLOP: K J 8 rainbow ($260 in the pot)
Guy in blinds checks, Binda Checks, I bet $225.
Then to my surprise EVERYBODY calls. I'm not sure what to think.

TURN: 8 of spades (putting two spades on the board)
Checks all around

RIVER: 3 of spades (now there are 3 spades out there)
BB checks, Binda bets 350 (almost 1200 in the pot)

Do you call this? Would Binda take a stab like this?
Do the odds justify a call?

I'm trying to figure out what kind of hand Binda would raise with, but not bet the flop with. All of the draws that existed on the flop didn't get there. The only hands I can think of that would check the flop, but call behind that have me beat by the river are AsQs As10s 9s10s and A8.
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Old 04-08-2006, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

He may have AJ, 8x (though I don't understand why he wouldn't lead considering it's a 4-handed pot with everyone having the word "draw" on their foreheads). With such a small bet though, I doubt he has a flush.
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

i was actually sweating this hand, and i thought it was something like a 440 bet into a 1600 pot?? maybe im thinking a different hand, cause i thought you had 5.4k at the start of this hand
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Old 04-08-2006, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

This is probably the same hand, stacks don't really matter, but i'm positive the pot wasn't 1600. I think the action is correct except Binda's bet mighta been 440, but shouldn't make a big difference.

I love playing 10/20 on a short roll
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Old 04-08-2006, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

cardsharkk,

You need to rethink the types of hands you want to call with even in position against players who might play laggier preflop but not postflop as much, and when your call doesn't close the action. I would rather have 87s here instead of K9s for many reasons, although there are reasons you wouldn't even want to call with that behind laggier players who don't dump postflop.

As played, I would certainly have bet the flop like you did. But once called in 3 spots, regardless of what came, I would have been through with the hand more often than not. And on the river, your call doesn't complete the action and too many hands beat you especially since he was willing to bet with 3 other players in the pot. The worst I would put him on is AK, even if you don't think he would check the flop with it.
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

Even though you might be beat I would call for sure getting more than 4:1 because I think you will definatly be good here enough for this to be +EV.
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

I'm almost positive that he does not have AK and highly doubt he has a king at all
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Old 04-08-2006, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

I said that was the worst he probably would have to make that river bet, not that he actually had it. That bet looks and smells like a value bet with that many players, and the only hand I see him making that bet with that you can beat is something like AJ which is trying to stop someone from betting more.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

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i was actually sweating this hand, and i thought it was something like a 440 bet into a 1600 pot?? maybe im thinking a different hand, cause i thought you had 5.4k at the start of this hand

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its almost certainly the same hand. the pot size on the river was 1194 and the bet was 444. the poster had 5.5k at the start, button had 3.3k, bb had 904 and binda had 2k.
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Weird Multiway Pot vs Binda Party 10/20

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I'm almost positive that he does not have AK and highly doubt he has a king at all

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this isnt true, he could have KQ/AK here fwiw.
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