($5) Busted out first hand with 99

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Preflop: Fine

Flop: Your bet was too big, especially on a coordinnated 2-tone board with 4 opponents. If I bet this flop, it's like 100-120 and I'm prepared to bail to any serious pressure. The problem here is, there's really no way you can adequately protect your very vulnerable hand. That was compounded when you got 2 callers. had you bet 100 and got 2 callers, you have a bit more wiggle room on the turn.

Turn: If you bet anything here, you're commiting all your chips, That T was a terrible card for you. It looks like you pick up a better draw, but not only does the two-flush devalue the draw by 2 outs, but certain other possible hands now beat you if you improve (your set outs are extremely suspect now). You still have an M of 25 if you get out now. Pushing is the best play if you choose to play on, but I'd rather check and fold to any serious bet.

Note how differently the turn plays out if you make a probe bet of 100-120 on the flop. If called in 2 places, you have an outside chance to see the river without putting the entire tourney at stake.

The real key here is evaluating the flop. Sure you have an overpair, but it's a weak one against a big field *and* most of your outs to improve are tainted.

[morphball]

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...the turn wasn't that scary

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Any overcard is scary card, IMO. Does anyone think that it might be better just to push if you are going to bet big? I am not saying to, just wondering...

[fatmanonguitar]

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...the turn wasn't that scary

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Any overcard is scary card, IMO. Does anyone think that it might be better just to push if you are going to bet big? I am not saying to, just wondering...

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He did push the turn.

[morphball]

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...the turn wasn't that scary

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Any overcard is scary card, IMO. Does anyone think that it might be better just to push if you are going to bet big? I am not saying to, just wondering...

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He did push the turn.

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My bad, I was talking about pushing the flop...

[fatmanonguitar]

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...the turn wasn't that scary

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Any overcard is scary card, IMO. Does anyone think that it might be better just to push if you are going to bet big? I am not saying to, just wondering...

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He did push the turn.

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My bad, I was talking about pushing the flop...

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No way. It's the first hand! Those 300 chips are not important enough to me to put my whole stack at risk when I will only be called by hands that crush me.

[DonkdHound]

I think if you think about this hand you'll catch your error very fast.
Pre-flop: Is Okay
Flop: I like, typically 2/3 to a pot bet is what I'd suggest here but looks good.
Turn: [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Man, nobody with a worse hand is EVER calling here imo.

[JRBluff]

Get used to it as long as you are playing at $5 dollar tourneys....

[Knight Vision]

check the turn. if he was on a straight draw, he just hit a hand (either the straight or TT) and now YOU have an OESD. take the free card.

edit - d'oh! there are two villains. my bad. still check the turn, cuz with two callers you are probably not in good shape right now. i know a check gives a free go at a flush draw, but you aren't in good enough shape to be raising.

[RoyalLance]

What kurto said.

[zomicon]

I usually play very tight in the beginning, only calling or raising the usual premium hands until the maniacs knock themselves out. You will almost never see one of those guys win, even if they build up a really big chip stack. Of course the blinds move up so fast that you need to stay ahead of them, so you have to play some.

I pretty much play the Sit and Go's now only to better my skills. I think the games reward luck too much because of the blind structure, but they are great for getting a lot of experience with odds and bet analysis.