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Old 04-07-2006, 03:43 PM
nycplayer nycplayer is offline
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Default Folding top 2p?

No reads.

Live No-Limit HE Cash game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players

Stack sizes:
SB: ~$195
BB: ~$160
Hero(UTG): ~$350


Pre-flop: (9 players)
UTG (J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img])

Hero calls,
MP calls,
folded to SB,
SB raises to $15,
BB calls $15,
Hero calls $15,
MP folds


Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($47, 3 players)
SB checks,
BB bets $50,
Hero raises to $100,
SB raises all-in to $180,
BB deliberates about a minute and calls.

Hero?
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:46 PM
MaddHatter MaddHatter is offline
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Default Re: Folding top 2p?

Holy Action Batman!

Folding here at a LIVE 1/2 takes a big read, and with none given, I have to call - the pot's now $400 and you have to put $80 more in - you can't fold even if you know one of them has 77 as you're getting perfect odds (5:1) to draw to a 6 outter (4:1)

Edit: Calling $15 preflop was probably a mistake, but I think you're up against AJ and QQ/KK/AA more often then you're up against a set
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:52 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Folding top 2p?

Even if they have exactly 77 and 98, you're still less than a 4:1 dog. The chances of SB having JJ or TT are minuscule. Never fold top 2 getting 6:1 on your money. Honestly. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'd fold pf to the huge raise by SB, and I'd just push the flop when it got to me. Minraise sucks.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: Folding top 2p?

I'm in that pot like a fat kid on candy, ALL OVER IT.

Margon
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: Folding top 2p?

fold pf, raise more on flop
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:57 PM
Margon Margon is offline
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Default Re: Folding top 2p?

He put in a pot sized raise...are you suggesting a push?

I like the way it played.

In these games, I like the preflop call, and I am a tight - nitty - weaky.

Margon
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:59 PM
MaddHatter MaddHatter is offline
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In these games, I like the preflop call, and I am a tight - nitty - weaky.

Margon

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Calling $15 OOP with $21 in the pot with JTs isn't Tight/Weak - it's vLP
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Folding top 2p?

I fold this UTG, but no problems calling the raise.

Why wouldn't you call? Even if you're behind, you have outs, its $80 into an enormous pot, and it essentially closes the action for the rest of the hand.
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Folding top 2p?

With this being live, I assume this was the standard PF raise for the table and with that Im OK with staying in PF. On the flop I poosh.
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:01 PM
icemanjmw icemanjmw is offline
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Default Re: Folding top 2p?

I think you have to play this hand through to the end. I mean calling $15 preflop with JTs, other than flopping the open-ended straight flush draw or the super-rare full house, top two pair seems like the best you can hope for. Now you're considering laying it down getting those odds?
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